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Postby Strahlemann » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:46 pm

First: ALWAYS do screenshots first !
You want people to test your map ?
Show it !

After this is quite a large topic by now i got interested and took a look.
I could already have told you some points just from screenshots.

So here we go:
Layout:
Well it's large and i really had trouble to find my way through the map. The totally unlit black parts in the map are annoying for me as i can't find my way easily through it (and crates block me off there). Bad for gameflow imo.
The connectivity is bad as well. It seems like you just added rooms and connected them with smaller or larger hallways. Fast action won't happen here. Have a look at some of your favorite Nexuiz or Quake3 maps and study how and why the layout there works for you.
Maybe it's exactly how you wanted the layout to be but it doesn't feel good for me.

Visuals and stuff:
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prettiest room in your map so far !
rotate the texture to match the rotation of the step.
You'll never find a step that's completely made out of lights. find another solution for that. but the idea of having the lights come from the stairs is good.
Use trims !

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same room. texture doessn't fit here. try something else.
I located many places that need texture work. not just this one.

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The blue swamp casting purple light looks weird. change this.
The walls and the whole room looks empty. add stuff. too dark.

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Missing the light source for the blue light.
Players always get distracted from things that don't look natural. light out of nowhere just looks wrong. Same for oversaturated lights (pure blue; pure red; pure green for example) as long as you don't have a light source that casts exactly and believably this kind of light.
There's a good read about general lighting stuff over here
http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/light.htm

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This one's a annoying place. It's too hard to jump over the gap in a fast match. Also the instant death when you touch the blue slime doesn't feel right and is annoying.

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Once again bad lighting. This room also feels very empty. add some stuff to the walls.

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This is the only room that has some nice architecture to fight around.
But lighting and texturing need much more work.

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Please please please align these lights at the top or screw them and go for a skybox. And these are just too many lights ! cut a half of them and paste them somewhere else in your map ;)

Overall this map needs a LOT of work if you want it to be included with an official nexuiz-release.
I would recommend that you start another map and first try to finish the layout. Then you can release a early gameplay-beta. after that add details and stuff at will and get more feedback.
And see how others did their maps!
Take a look here for more (q3)levels: http://lvlworld.com/top.php?v=40
bleach->aneurysm->straledm5->dieselpower->space-fun->o-fun->runningman->runningman1on1->aggressor(conversion)->soylent->bloodprison->bluesky->ruiner->reslimed->strength
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Postby person2 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:42 pm

divVerent wrote:
person2 wrote:I need more criticism, and not sarcastic CRAP from people like divergent.


Oh, you got offended by my sarcastic post? Well, shit happens, but life goes on. Well, I'll solve that tiny question for you: ALL of the post was sarcastic. However, I had a reason to do that. If it weren't _you_, I would have given a serious criticism. It wasn't MEANT to offend you, but sorry - I could not resist after reading your website.

Well, as you might understand, others might get offended by YOUR posts under your previous nicknames. Or by the content on your website. Discriminating against almost half the world population, and they aren't even close together on the world map, but evenly spread throughout all the countries... good luck, really good luck in your fight... about that topic, one last comment:

"I pray you understand [...] that those which appear there are no giants, but windmills; and that which seems in them to be arms, are their sails, that, swung about by the wind, do also make the mill go."

No, personally I am not directly offended by your posts. However, I do know why Nexuiz isn't in Debian yet. And I hope you know the true reason behind that too.


I don't know why nexuiz isn't in debian yet (they were complaining about the data being too big etc), is it because debian is being taken over by women (who are feminists, worthless feminists). There are alot of packages that have been dropped from debian, it seems people are becoming less enthused with debian proper... I wonder if it's not because of debian-women, alot of men may not be anti-women's rights but they are tired of feminists... when a feminist group is welcomed into the project you loved... maybe you don't love that project so much (note: I hate women's rights, so this is just a hypothetical).

Strahlemann: Thankyou for the criticism.
I will add the light sources, thank you for the outlines showing what you would do aswell! I'll do them maybe with the exception of the border around the steps. The insta kill was because my shaders don't work, if someone else compiled the map the dmg could be set to 100 or 75 for a 2 hit death or so as the person would be immersed in the liquid.

I will continue working on this map to get it up to snuff.

Thank you for the criticism, I welcome more.
Deviance: the problem was I didn't know which was sacrasm and which was not. Scathing criticism is good, I just need to know.
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Postby tZork » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:16 am

person2 wrote: ... is it because debian is being taken over by women (who are feminists, worthless feminists). ...

Theres no place for that bullshit here. you can think what you want abt whoever you but dont post abt it here. ever.
HOF:
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Postby PHREAK » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:07 am

Is this dude serious???
Person, this is the nexuiz forum. If you don't know the difference between nex and other game forums (CS comes to mind) you might wan't to move somewhere else.
The anti feminist remarks, racial or religious bullshit, etc will not be tolerated here. I don't care how many maps you make "for us". You can voice you shit like you did on your website, which offended me as a muslim, yet I chose to ignore it since this is Nex. Grow up, educate you self, get laid and stop mapping. At least for Nex.

"Ich drink kein pillz mit dir du sau"

Adios
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:17 am

note: I hate women's rights

Ah, I can already imagine under which circumstances you grew up ... well I mean physically, as the mental process seems to be suppressed
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[kojn] she took it the dirty way
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Postby SavageX » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:45 am

person2 wrote:(note: I hate women's rights, so this is just a hypothetical).


If you'd actually take your medication I'm sure the pharmaceutical industry could improve gross margins by a considerable amount. ;-)

Joking aside I assume you could have a much easier stand here in this community if you'd think twice before posting discriminatory content.
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Postby C.Brutail » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:52 am

/OFF

what is the fuck with this thing? Remember Chauvinist? He's been suffering from the same thing... I don't get it...

/ON
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Postby divVerent » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:52 am

person2 wrote:I don't know why nexuiz isn't in debian yet (they were complaining about the data being too big etc), is it because debian is being taken over by women (who are feminists, worthless feminists).


I don't believe you are so insensitive that you didn't notice why the maintainership on the Nexuiz package was given up. The reason was none other than YOUR FLAMING.

Let me summarize.

  • A member of the Debian project, let's call him AS, intends to package Nexuiz.
  • He posts a status report on the bug tracker that it's a problem that apparently Nexuiz needs to be compiled with a non-free compiler and therefore cannot go into 'main' - but very well qualifies for 'contrib'. Plus the high data size will be a problem for packaging on CDs, a CD set of Debian is already large enough, which can be solved by only including a downloader into Debian that pulls the data files from Sourceforge (it wouldn't be the first game package that does that).
  • Some others, me included, told him that fteqcc is in fact free, but not yet in Debian. So an ITP for fteqcc was "awakened".
  • However (personal communication with AS) the license issue was still valid - Nexuiz could not be compiled without using non-free software - since q3map2 at that time wasn't free yet (now it is). Which isn't an actual problem - actually about nobody cares if a package is in main or in contrib anyway.
  • You flamed on the debian-wnpp mailing list over this issue. Apparently you thought "contrib" and "data downloader" would mean "not in Debian", but you were wrong. Instead of trying to help, you thought it was appropriate to write:
    WHAT THE FUCK. IT IS 100% GPL YET YOU ARE SCRAPPING IT
    TO THE JUNK HEAP? GO FUCK YOURSELVES YOU PRO-WOMEN'S
    RIGHTS PIECES OF SHIT.

    THE GAME IS 100% GPL MOTHER FUCKERS.

    I repeat: the point about qcc2 was in fact not valid, but the one about q3map2 was at that time. But they never tought of "scrapping it to the junk heap".
  • After these mails (and some personal ones with more insults if I remember correctly what he told me), AS gave up maintainership on the Nexuiz package. He had no interest in such flamewars.


Neither AS nor us have ever seen an excuse about that yet. And an excuse would be the VERY LEAST the Nexuiz community can expect from you after that.

Think about it a little.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby person2 » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:04 pm

PHREAK wrote:Is this dude serious???
Person, this is the nexuiz forum. If you don't know the difference between nex and other game forums (CS comes to mind) you might wan't to move somewhere else.
The anti feminist remarks, racial or religious bullshit, etc will not be tolerated here. I don't care how many maps you make "for us". You can voice you shit like you did on your website, which offended me as a muslim, yet I chose to ignore it since this is Nex. Grow up, educate you self, get laid and stop mapping. At least for Nex.

"Ich drink kein pillz mit dir du sau"

Adios


You won't tolerate anti-feminism? Go fuck yourself.
Death To women's Rights.
Death To women's Freedoms.
Death To women's Liberties.

Death To Nexuiz (It's almost there) for being a community of pro women's rights faggots.
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Postby divVerent » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:26 pm

person2 wrote:You won't tolerate anti-feminism? Go fuck yourself.


Tolerate, as in granting people like you free speech? Yes.

But, THIS is not the right place for that. Furthermore, all I see from you is mindless propaganda. You never had any actual ARGUMENTS. All you are doing is repeating the same line over and over.

If you want, you may very well have a serious discussion about political things in the "General discussion" forum. However, don't expect many of us to share your views. This forum however is NOT the right place for that. Insults, however, don't even have their place in the "General discussion" forum...

Hm... is this thread over due to Godwin's law when I mention a time at which another phrase was mindlessly repeated over and over. This time was until about sixty years ago and most of that happened in Evil Germany. Enough, Godwin?
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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