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Postby MC SE7EN » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:37 am

I'm telling ya, we need razor blades! I know Nexuiz has laserbeams, but it doesn't have razor blades! :D

Earlier, I wrote wrote:it looks like a giant electric razor..primary should be pulsating razor blades, using no ammo. secondary should be taser mode (with shockwave?) and use ammo..1 energy cell?


Eh? Maybe replace the laser function with the "shockwave"? Might not be too great for jumping though... hmm..
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Postby Flying Steel » Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:40 am

Samual wrote:Actually, I would love that. This could replace the laser, while still having the same laser abilities. Brilliant. (Well, by that I mean, laser primary = a projectile which can be used for laser jumping.. While laser secondary = melee attack).. I could probably attempt to code this even.


That would be awesome.
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Postby FraNcoTirAdoR » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:08 am

Samual wrote:Actually, I would love that. This could replace the laser, while still having the same laser abilities. Brilliant.


Yep, as I wrote it earlier it could create a new attack type, rush (spartaaa) by itselft, because people could gain speed and damage huge close range with only 1 weapon. Finally some superunique weapon in Nexuiz ;) Also a note: yes I KNOW that many people use now laser secondary to switch back to their original weapon, but I think throwing away this little function for something much more awesome and unique really worth, people will get used to this fast anyaway, I mean dont get a habit stand in the way of something pretty revolutional :P

@ the last screenshot: it looks fantastic, keep up the good work! What I would note that according to the first person picture you posted earlier it might look damn long in first persion view, anyone else noticed this?
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Postby paperclips » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:51 am

MC SE7EN wrote:I'm telling ya, we need razor blades!
I can only speak for "mah salf" but, Please no(!), thats a bit "emo" and besides blunt force trauma ftw! Get with the program. ;)

Samual wrote:Actually, I would love that. This could replace the laser, while still having the same laser abilities. Brilliant. (Well, by that I mean, laser primary = a projectile which can be used for laser jumping.. While laser secondary = melee attack).. I could probably attempt to code this even.
Excellent idea, good Sir. Great initiative on your signature as well! More openness/easier access for the public ftw!

FraNcoTirAdoR wrote:Also a note: yes I KNOW that many people use now laser secondary to switch back to their original weapon, but I think throwing away this little function for something much more awesome and unique really worth, people will get used to this fast anyaway, I mean dont get a habit stand in the way of something pretty revolutional

Well spoken, Sir! Hear hear! When rad and I where playing over at the hm.. "the future nexuiz serverlongtermweaponbalancethingy" the other day, I noticed this behaviour as well. Quietly I began to ponder this in back of my mind, I felt a bit sad at first, but as the nice mutator forced me to use one weapon at the time and not being able to use the good old shotgun - laser combo. It didnt take long to get the hang of the new laser! Thats a nice balance testing mutator. Besides it original intent, good training!

As FraNcoTirAdoR, said this could be awesome. Id love to trying to tackle down people on spacemaps with this! Combined with still being able to hand out some of that good old fashioned laser whooping. count me in, im all for it. This could be used to dodge other attacks. Greater movement complexity ftw!
I for one, think its time to let the present laser secondary go and let some more of that awesome in the game.

Thats some fine work there Yoda almighty! Please keep the good work up! :D Regarding the last picture and the ehm.. how do u say it? Muzzle/emitter, stretched out on the sides. Feels like we are moving from a laser pulse to more of a wave force here. :D

EDIT: Holy shit gents, I just realised that this weapon could also be the solution to incorporate the shield feature that have been spoken about earlier. Similiar to the new fireball weapon except holding down button gives shield.
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Postby Yoda almighty » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:25 pm

thanks everyone :D

i was discussing with dib about the attack. primary would be a "punching" attack (melee) that would in addition to doing damage, would send the enemy flying backward (a little like the gravity hammmer from halo) and the secondary would be an energy "pulse" that is pretty much like you describe.

we also discussed the ability to "charge" the attack, by holding the button down, thus making it do more damage.

I also had an idea. for primary attack, if you press the button once, you just punch forward. but if you hold the button down, and then release it, you lunge forward, swinging it, and doing more damage.

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Postby Icarus » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:33 pm

In game with textures:

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Postby [-z-] » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:47 pm

looks awesome, great work guys. I can't wait to try it.
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Postby MC SE7EN » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:40 pm

I think the ingame model should be angled a little, like youre holding your hand up in a fighting stance...i certainly dont walk around with my hand perfectly level if im looking to punch someone.. ;)
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Postby Flying Steel » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:33 am

Samual wrote:Actually, I would love that. This could replace the laser, while still having the same laser abilities. Brilliant. (Well, by that I mean, laser primary = a projectile which can be used for laser jumping.. While laser secondary = melee attack).. I could probably attempt to code this even.

BTW, new model looks great.


Any progress with this by any chance, Samual?
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Postby Samual » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:14 am

Flying Steel wrote:
Samual wrote:Actually, I would love that. This could replace the laser, while still having the same laser abilities. Brilliant. (Well, by that I mean, laser primary = a projectile which can be used for laser jumping.. While laser secondary = melee attack).. I could probably attempt to code this even.

BTW, new model looks great.


Any progress with this by any chance, Samual?

Well, I was going to do this but then Dib told me he would make it into a weapon... But well, he disappeared. :( I guess I could take a look at this after I finish up the other stuff i'm doing.
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