[MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Beta 4 (Blue,Green,Yellow)

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[MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Beta 4 (Blue,Green,Yellow)

Postby sev » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:22 pm

EDIT: Get the latest version here: http://forums.xonotic.org/showthread.php?tid=260

Beta 4

Added the green and yellow versions.
The highlight colour of wicked3 blue is now darker and its hue is closer to blue.

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Beta 3

Yay, I found some useful info in the menu source code.

Revised background frame (stays centered behind the windows now). Converted the background image to jpg.
I'm not sure if I can keep the "framing" of the 2 bottom windows. If there's any overlap in the main view (of the windows and frame), a screenshot would be helpful.

I experimented with the server list colours, but it's just not working. If you know a system with 3 colours (good, ok, bad ping), + colour for bookmarked servers, + alpha values for full and empty servers (and ones with very bad ping), that is not confusing AND that fits the theme, I'll happily use it.

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Beta 2

I decreased the size of the (background) frame and made some minor colour adjustments.
I'm now interested in screenshots with ratio 16:9 of the main menu (with the 3 windows in the centre).
(If I force it manually, it just gets streched, not correctly scaled)

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Beta 1
Ready for testing, I'm open for comments and suggestions.
I'm also interested in screenshots with width >= 1600 (I can't set it higher than my native screen res).

I'll make several colour versions once the graphics are tested (blue, green, red, yellow, magenta), as well as a default candidate (if the blue one is too blue).

There are some issues with the version number (ugly scaling), I'll work on that.

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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 1

Postby sputnik » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:23 am

Very nice work!

Maybe just two little things that could be improved:
The green color of the server list doesn't fit very well with the rest. Maybe orange instead of green?
And I think that the background color of a selected row is a little too light at moment.

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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 1

Postby merlijn » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:45 am

Looking great, the one thing I don't really like is the sliderbutton, it could be more shiny like the rest of the menu.

Anyway, here's some screenshots at 1920x1200:

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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 1

Postby C.Brutail » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:04 pm

I'm waiting for the green one :)
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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 1

Postby GreEn`mArine » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:28 pm

same here :P

The blue one looks very cool though. GJ
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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 2

Postby sev » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:19 pm

Bump

Added version beta 2.
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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 2

Postby Samual » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:33 pm

Screenshots I have are from Beta 2 ----

Anyway I have a few problems with this at the moment:

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The Credits and Quit buttons are out of place, future Nexuiz menus will use 5:4 aspect ratio on the menu no matter what the vid_con* values are to remain compatible with multiple monitor setups and etc. (We chose 5:4 because it fits with almost everything possible.) The problem here is that using a single image at the bottom which is increased in size just doesn't work with different monitor sizes as the background part of the menu doesn't care for the 5:4 ratio (Or any other ratio changes for that matter) -- I suggest taking a different idea for the background image of the theme or finding some way to solve this problem. Note: You should avoid doing this method for the top too, as again I mentioned multiple monitor usage would be interrupted by this.

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As mentioned before, perhaps you could make the colors a little more blue-based with text in the serverlist?

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Take a look at the backgrounds here and compare that with another theme, the background of the singleplayer matches the maplist in other themes --- Perhaps check for other background color controls like this (Example: Serverlist or listbox global background color control) in the config. I don't have time to look at the config itself right now, sorry, else I would point out what needs changed.

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This just looks silly (We could probably extend the button size for this theme if we make it default, but i'm not sure if they would then be too big for the name of the model.)

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And this needs to be red.

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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 2

Postby sev » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:37 pm

Thanks so far for the feedback. :mrgreen:

The Credits and Quit buttons are out of place, future Nexuiz menus will use 5:4 aspect ratio on the menu no matter what the vid_con* values are to remain compatible with multiple monitor setups and etc. (We chose 5:4 because it fits with almost everything possible.) The problem here is that using a single image at the bottom which is increased in size just doesn't work with different monitor sizes as the background part of the menu doesn't care for the 5:4 ratio (Or any other ratio changes for that matter) -- I suggest taking a different idea for the background image of the theme or finding some way to solve this problem. Note: You should avoid doing this method for the top too, as again I mentioned multiple monitor usage would be interrupted by this.


EDIT: I read through the code and found a useful (yet seemingly undocumented) aligning method. Problem hopefully solved.

As mentioned before, perhaps you could make the colors a little more blue-based with text in the serverlist?

The reason why I kept these colours is their well known meaning. green = good ping, yellow = ok ping, red = bad ping. Apart from blueplastic, all skins use this colour coding, I think with good reason:
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Take a look at the backgrounds here and compare that with another theme, the background of the singleplayer matches the maplist in other themes --- Perhaps check for other background color controls like this (Example: Serverlist or listbox global background color control) in the config. I don't have time to look at the config itself right now, sorry, else I would point out what needs changed.

Hmm... One important thing with the map selector is that the maps (unlike the other list items) can have different statuses: activated or deactivated.
To make it look like the other skins, I have to brighten the background to make the black list-item background stand out. It then looks like this:
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I don't mind doing it this way (unless the background needs to be brighter, then it looks washed out), though beta2 has better contrast.

This just looks silly (We could probably extend the button size for this theme if we make it default, but i'm not sure if they would then be too big for the name of the model.)

This problem occurs because these 2 buttons override the 1:2:1 ratio of the buttons.
I can't do anything about this apart from making the "unscalable" parts at either side narrower, affecting ALL other buttons.

They simply should be extended, it shouldn't cause problems with the names.
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And this needs to be red.

Done.



In return, I would have some suggestions for the menu:

The gametype buttons (multiplayer > create) should be reverted from bigbuttons to buttons, sice they are now the same size as the normal buttons.

I also suggest a different approach to missing image files. Instead of the checkered texture, it would be useful if an alternative image is used instead:
missing _f, _c --> use _n (only within the same activation status, i.e. c0 = n0, c1 = n1)
missing _d --> use _n with alpha 0.5
missing background_ingame_l* --> use background_l*
This would get rid of a lot of redundant data, while not removing any features or breaking compatibility of existing skins.
(In a test with wicked3, with the top half of the bg frame for ingame, this results in 30% fewer files (73 to 51) and 20% lower archive size)
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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 2

Postby sev » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:22 pm

Bump

Added Beta 3.
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Re: [MenuSkin][Beta] Wicked3 Blue Beta 2

Postby [-z-] » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:56 pm

This looks good but the list selection color does not match the design. The hue is off. Correct this and you'll have a solid menu skin.
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