New 1vs1 tournament being organized: EU and NA together?

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Create one tournament for all players or one for EU and one for NA?

Create one tournament for all players
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Create one NA and one EU tournament, they run side by side
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Total votes : 35

New 1vs1 tournament being organized: EU and NA together?

Postby GreEn`mArine » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:29 pm

Hi.

MorFar and I are organising a new Nexuiz 1vs1 deathmatch tournament on a new site (using a different script this time) with the help of a few others like [-z-] and mkzelda. We are still working on some texts and graphics before we can get this public.

However, before the signups can start, we need your opinion about this:
As you know, there have been mixed tournaments where players all over the world, primarily EU and North American players, have played together/against each other in one tournament. This caused several issues, such as
  • ping problems, you had to play on different servers located in different countries etc.
  • time problems, people living in different timezones which makes it hard to agree on a time to play the match
On the other hand, we've also had US tournaments only (NA frenzy), and it showed that these didn't lack any activity either, even though the player base was divided.

This is why I'd like to know what you guys think should be done
  • First poll option: Create only one tournament again and let all players participate in it. The servers used in this tournament would then consist of both EU and NA servers, as well as possibly other servers in other regions.
    Advantage: Greater number of participants
    Disadvantage: Ping and timezone problems
  • Second poll option: Create two independent tournaments that run side by side. The only difference of these 2 tournaments is the serverlist, as one will contain only NA servers, while the other one will contain only EU servers. When a player wants to participate in the tourney, he can choose whether he wants to join either the NA or the EU tourney. This will also allow players from other regions than EU or NA to play, they simply have to decide which one of the tournaments they choose.
    Advantage: Most likely no timezone issues, as the participants most likely live in the region of the tournament they chose (EU or NA), most likely no ping issues either
    Disadvantage: Division of the player base into 2 halfs

Feel free to comment on this issue, also suggest other pro/con arguments for either of these options (the ones above only express the thoughts I had so far).
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Postby Silica Gel: Do Not Eat » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:56 pm

Run them side by side.

However , have the winner of the NA tournament play the winner of the EU tournament.
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Postby sev » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:06 pm

EDIT: While I was writing this, vomit already made a similar suggestion :P .

I don't really know how you organise the tournament, or how many players will participate, but when I read your post I wondered: Why don't you merge the two options?

My idea is a world tournament with 2 stages:

Stage 1 (Poll option 2)
Regional Tournaments. The player signs up for one, either EU or NA, and competes for the title of the EU or NA champion.

Stage 2 (Poll option 1)
World Finale. The best 50% (25%, 10%) of the EU and NA tournaments are qualified for the world championship and can participate, if they want.
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Postby kyre » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:47 pm

I like sev's idea - running them side by side, then having the top players from these eligible for a unified tourney. Should reduce the risk of that tourney stalling due to players not showing up or being unable to find the time to play.

The second tourney would have no more than 16 players, possibly as few as 8, so it doesn't drag out for too long.
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Postby GreEn`mArine » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:02 pm

Well, the script won't allow us to do that, sorry. Of course, we could to it manually. But still, I'd suggest that both tourneys are played until the end, so we get the rankings. Then the top4 or top 8 of each tournament can signup for a new tournament which is dedicated for these 8 (or 16) players only, hence only the applications of these 16 players will be accepted by the tourney admin.
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Re: New 1vs1 tournament being organized: EU and NA together?

Postby Mirio » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:14 pm

GreEn`mArine wrote:Mortar and I

a weapon organize it ? :shock:

.. ;)

anyway run it side by side ;) like the others said above
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Postby sev » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:33 pm

GreEn`mArine wrote:But still, I'd suggest that both tourneys are played until the end, so we get the rankings. Then the top4 or top 8 of each tournament can signup for a new tournament which is dedicated for these 8 (or 16) players only, hence only the applications of these 16 players will be accepted by the tourney admin.


That's what I was trying to explain. Of course Stage 1 would have to be finished before Stage 2 could start.

sev wrote:Stage 2 (Poll option 1)
World Finale. The best 50% (25%, 10%) of the EU and NA tournaments are qualified for the world championship and can participate, if they want.
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Postby *HxC*Cuizinier » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:31 pm

I hope you will understand my dirty english. sry for that.
I got 3 ideas that fucking rocks. (Normal its me)

1- We can do 2 tournaments side by side. Anyway, worldwide competition is impossible.
The Winner of EU and the winner of NA plays in Fucking Super Awsome Nexuiz World Champion Final !!!!1!!11ONEHUNDREDELEVEN. (FSANWCF OMFG =) )
We finaly know who is da best world Nexuiz Player.

2- At the end of the tourney, we can do a country ranking ex :
- France winner : Cuizi
- UK : kojn , ... , ...
- Ger : ??? , ...
This rankin could be done with when the player loose the tournament (half final < final)
If 2 players of the same country loose in the same "part" of tournament, we can add a match to know who is the better. There is some chance that happen with Germany ranking.

3- Allow spectators during Game. (Max ppl ?). And record them all from the both players. Maybe another view (free cam) can be nice. Is the server recording demo is running ?
Then, somebody can do a Nexuiz World Tournament Movie.I can't do it because I'll begin the FOTY in 1 week.

What do think ?

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Postby HarryButt » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:36 pm

This could become an awesome fragmovie :P
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Postby nifrek » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:27 pm

GreEn`mArine wrote:Well, the script won't allow us to do that, sorry. Of course, we could to it manually. But still, I'd suggest that both tourneys are played until the end, so we get the rankings. Then the top4 or top 8 of each tournament can signup for a new tournament which is dedicated for these 8 (or 16) players only, hence only the applications of these 16 players will be accepted by the tourney admin.


I vote for that.
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