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Postby Summer Willow » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:06 am

This might sound stupid but try a different version of linux? I mean maybe its arch's implementation of Xwindow or something similar. Otherwise I am also out of ideas.

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Postby nexbender » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:08 pm

Summer Willow wrote:This might sound stupid but try a different version of linux? I mean maybe its arch's implementation of Xwindow or something similar. Otherwise I am also out of ideas.

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BB, the laptop runs Windows XP, not Xorg on top of Archlinux - that's the home box, which Nexuiz has also been glitchy on (last night I kept losing jumps so I couldn't get up to speed and sometimes couldn't jump at all), but nowhere near as bad as the laptop. Xorg is Xorg, be it on Arch, Gentoo, Fedora, Debian, etc. So, yeah, I'm blaming Nexuiz probs on laptop on Microsoft, and I'm blaming Nexuiz probs on home box on mystery meat, cuz all the other OpenGL games I've run on it are fine.

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Postby nexbender » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:17 am

I lied, I'm resurrecting this thread. Not three feet from me I have a couple decent desktop boxes I could game on, but I use them for all my monitoring (remember, this is at work). So I'm stuck with this stupid laptop. And the input lags so freaking bad even _offline_ I can't screw around with bots. I pressy the jumpy button...and a half second or more later I jump. I switch to laser...and a half second or more later I've got my laser. And so on. I've got the laptop docked, keys/mouse on PS/2. Sauerbraten does fine. Some of those other garbage games also respond fine. It's just nex. And it's driven me insane!
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Postby divVerent » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:50 am

Do you get input lag with -dinput too? I ask, because in 2.4, -dinput will support the wheel.
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You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby nexbender » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:52 pm

divVerent wrote:Do you get input lag with -dinput too? I ask, because in 2.4, -dinput will support the wheel.

Hmm, I've tried the nexuiz-sdl.exe, which uses direct input, yes? I haven't tried the non-sdl (glx?) Windows version with -dinput on the laptop, though. I will tomorrow and report back.
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Postby nexbender » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:59 am

divVerent wrote:Do you get input lag with -dinput too? I ask, because in 2.4, -dinput will support the wheel.


nexuiz.exe -dinput is worse than without -dinput by another half second or more. I am quite boggled. :?
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Postby divVerent » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:18 am

You haven't said if nexuiz-sdl has the lag too...
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby nexbender » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:29 am

divVerent wrote:You haven't said if nexuiz-sdl has the lag too...

Yes, sorry, overlooked that; yes, nexuiz-sdl has the lag.

Ya know, I'm really thinking it's just that stupid laptop. Granted, there may be some issue with darkplaces that is being exacerbated by the laptop, but obviously no one else is seeing this sort of hit. Oh, and I can say for fair-certain it's losing input too (both -sdl and non with -dinput), because I tried using my "laser toggle" keybind and most of the time it fails to do at least one of three things - switch to the laser, _keep_ the laser while I'm still holding KEY, or switch back to last weapon when I let go of KEY. I've never seen any of that behavior on my home box with either -glx or -sdl on both Linux and Windows.

I'm kicking myself that I brought this thread up again. It's got to be the laptop. :oops:
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Postby divVerent » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:11 pm

Such things aren't hardware problems. Try:

gl_finish 1

on the console. If it doesn't finish, look for keyboard and mouse drivers on the notebook and deinstall them - you don't need them.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby nexbender » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:31 am

divVerent wrote:Such things aren't hardware problems. Try:

gl_finish 1

on the console. If it doesn't finish, look for keyboard and mouse drivers on the notebook and deinstall them - you don't need them.

Already tried gl_finish 1, didn't help. I've got a synaptic touchpad and the software crap for it...I'll remove it tonight and see if that helps.
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