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Postby IronGarrett240 » Sat May 10, 2008 7:07 pm

Hey I just downloaded the game and I don't know what to do to start it.
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Postby Urmel » Sat May 10, 2008 8:15 pm

Hi and welcome to the forums.

I'm quite sure you are a windows user. So this is what you've got to do:

Extract the downloaded zip file. Enter the the Nexuiz directory. Look for the file "nexuiz.exe" or alternatively "nexuiz-sdl.exe" and doubleklick it.

I suggest you to visit http://alientrap.org/nexuiz/faq.php for more general informations.
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Postby davidpbrown » Mon May 12, 2008 7:40 pm

The faq could be clear about how to start the game.. even for Linux

Using nexuiz-linux-glx.sh isn't obvious.

The Readme.htm doesn't even suggest it.. unless you're doing it deliberately, looking for a little natural selection :)
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Postby stimpyjcat » Mon May 12, 2008 8:38 pm

davidpbrown wrote:The faq could be clear about how to start the game.. even for Linux

Using nexuiz-linux-glx.sh isn't obvious.

The Readme.htm doesn't even suggest it.. unless you're doing it deliberately, looking for a little natural selection :)
are you sure?

the sh extension is the used for executable console scripts under linux like systems even before the linux creation ^^
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Postby davidpbrown » Mon May 12, 2008 8:53 pm

Yes, I'm sure.

I'm an experienced user and I've been using Linux for over a year now - only last month did I find that sh is related to terminal.

Indeed only your post has me now recognise the extension might be a standard!

No harm in stating the bleeding obvious in a readme for those who get to the point of looking for a faq.

There are a fair number of people moving from other OS's now, not just the long term Unix types and these are exactly the differences that make them stumble. This is the only program I've had this problem with incidentally.. others just have a man available.. man nexuiz gives nothing it seems (maybe the way I've installed to /opt)

Even now I couldn't tell you the difference between the two scripts available -glx.sh and -sdl.sh.
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Postby stimpyjcat » Mon May 12, 2008 9:12 pm

davidpbrown wrote:Yes, I'm sure.

I'm an experienced user and I've been using Linux for over a year now - only last month did I find that sh is related to terminal.

Indeed only your post has me now recognise the extension might be a standard!

No harm in stating the bleeding obvious in a readme for those who get to the point of looking for a faq.

There are a fair number of people moving from other OS's now, not just the long term Unix types and these are exactly the differences that make them stumble. This is the only program I've had this problem with incidentally.. others just have a man available.. man nexuiz gives nothing it seems (maybe the way I've installed to /opt)

Even now I couldn't tell you the difference between the two scripts available -glx.sh and -sdl.sh.
sh is the common executable script extension for linux just like bat for dos or cmd for windows nt (but with linux is just a standard, not like the other ones)

you need to install manual pages to have it at hand :P

and maybe the faq/readme writers were thinking that a linux user will look for a sh (or something with executable attribute), but with the great number new user that are migrating to linux they may need to refine the explanation
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Postby Ed » Mon May 12, 2008 9:24 pm

davidpbrown wrote:I'm an experienced user and I've been using Linux for over a year now - only last month did I find that sh is related to terminal.

I mean this in the kindest way but I wouldn't say you're an experienced user if you've only recently found out that .sh is frequently used for shell scripts. In Konqueror all the file types are displayed on my system and the shell scripts are labelled as such so it's not that hard to find out.

.sh is not any standard for naming shell scripts. It's convenient but not standard. Unix systems have proper filetype detection unlike those crap OS's which use a file extension as the main way to identify files. The bit that identifies a shell script as such is not the .sh but the #! /bin/bash (or similar) which tells the system which program needs to be used, like #! /bin/perl might be used for Perl.

And you won't get a man page if you just extract the zip. Building man pages into a system is much more difficult which is why package management is the best way to install software.

As for Nexuiz being the only program that uses shell scripts, some other Linux games too. Both Doom 3 and UT200x offer to install a shell script to a location.
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Postby davidpbrown » Mon May 12, 2008 9:47 pm

.sh is not any standard for naming shell scripts and although I was aware that extension is frequently used, why would I expect to hunt the script.. aware as I was that Unix systems have proper filetype detection.

Granted I'm not an expert Linux user but then why should I need to be to install and start a game?..

Why make it hard when a simple pointer in the faq would help?
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Postby esteel » Tue May 13, 2008 1:11 pm

Well most linux users know about executable files.. and there are only 6.. i think.. the two shell scripts and the 'real' binaries (including the dedicated server binary).. You are the only one so far that complained about this. So i'm not really sure there is much clearification needed.

And in fact there is this in the FAQ:

** How can I place a shortcut to Nexuiz on my Linux desktop?
Use the script |nexuiz-linux-sdl.sh| or |nexuiz-linux-glx.sh| instead of the binaries. The scripts will use the correct |working directory|,choose the right version (32 or 64 bit) and also allow you to start a extra X server.
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