Stop the spam - Upgrade to 2.4.2 floating box

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Stop the spam - Upgrade to 2.4.2 floating box

Postby davidpbrown » Mon May 12, 2008 5:48 pm

Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!!

Annoying yellow box reminder has appeared floating throughout the game.

Say it once say it clearly but don't float the box all over throughout the game..
Do a text insert reminder during map changes maybe but better for many will be your uploading to the Ubuntu repository and letting the user wait for the auto upgrade?

Oh btw
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
Upgrade to 2.4.2 !!! :twisted:
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Postby divVerent » Mon May 12, 2008 5:55 pm

We did try a "regular" announcement before, but people didn't upgrade. On OpenArena, server admins don't even upgrade their SERVERS.

It is harsh, but it was necessary :( if you think you can do it better, do it.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby davidpbrown » Mon May 12, 2008 7:33 pm

Can you explain why it's important..

The impression is all versions are compatible. Obviously there are benefits in the newest shiniest version etc but unless it's a security upgrade, is it really that important?

Great game btw :)

Maybe you could have an auto upgrade.. auto downloaded like the maps do? Bounce onto a main server instead of the host etc.
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Postby SavageX » Mon May 12, 2008 7:44 pm

We can't guarantee everything will work for old clients on new servers. In fact compatibility is broken every release in subtle or not so subtle ways. Old clients are a feature-stopper and a support-request generator. Clients should update. If the distributions don't provide new packages the users should take action on their own. In the past many users did simply ignore the "new version available" alert and saw the game falling apart later on.
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Postby Blµb » Mon May 12, 2008 7:48 pm

best example is CSQC
2.4 supports CSQC, before 2.4 the clients would just crash

and CSQC just gives us an awful lot of new possibilities...
so...
I wish this upgrade message was in v2.3 already :S
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Postby davidpbrown » Mon May 12, 2008 8:12 pm

I'm sure Microsoft would agree upgrades are important too (ducks)

Maybe just make the message less annoying.. the user could acknowledge it once at the start.. promise to upgrade and it could disappear until the next time?

I would think an in your face box on startup would be preferred over any in game annoyance.

I've got it loaded into /opt atm but looking at synaptic for Ubuntu, it's showing latest version available would be 2.4.1. Would that mean I'm still seeing this upgrade message if I did bother to now switch to the repository? - seems a bad idea for those on Ubuntu unless you have your own repository.
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Postby Dokujisan » Mon May 12, 2008 8:27 pm

is there a way for server admins to deny someone access on the server unless they have a certain version number on their client? Perhaps with the message "This server requires version 2.x. Please upgrade."

I wouldn't care if people (in the know) could get around by by manually setting their client version number. This would be to help promote people who AREN'T in-the-know to upgrade.

Or maybe not a rejection. but a message displayed immediately when they connect which would tell them that they should upgrade. Then the message would go away after a few seconds. (EDIT: I mean like a custom message that the server admin could set, similar to MOTD)

Just throwing some ideas in the hat for future versions.
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Postby morfar » Mon May 12, 2008 9:10 pm

You can remove the notification by adding this to autoexec.cfg (if don't have that file create it in data folder):
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g_nexuizversion 2.4.2


That fools the menu (and servers) to think you are using the 2.4.2 version.
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Postby davidpbrown » Mon May 12, 2008 9:19 pm

Thanks morfar
That works - once but it seems nexuiz refreshes the file and removes the line but it would be easy enough to script around.
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Postby Dokujisan » Mon May 12, 2008 9:26 pm

Nexuiz makes changes to autoexec.cfg?
Hmm...I thought it only made changes to config.cfg.
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