Game runs perfect - without other Players

[Urmel]

That sounds just fine! Let's kick the jam out of our fuckin' machines

[Nil]

:o Hooray! I'm not alone !

Had these problems with a Pentium IV 2.4 GHz and Radeon 9600 on Linux. And have them now with a Celeron D 2,8 GHz and a Radeon 9600 or a 9800 Pro also on Linux. This a Debian 2.6.11, XFree 4.3.0 and ATI 8.22.5.

The first system ran well with Nexuiz 1.2, there were just 2 maps or so, where the frame rate was quite low. Now it's about 2 maps I can play with decent frame rates when more than 4 players are on the server.

I tried Stahl's low.cfg and and dozens of other cvars but it does not help or I haven't found the right combination yet.

but Ima gonna find out!!!!

That would be great.

[Urmel]

Okay, there is a growing couple a fellas who notice the same prob. Could it be that it's not a hardware bug?

Maybe it's a useless information, but the game looks similar to the spectator mode (watching the view of other players) when too many players are in sight.

But maybe it's a way to find out where the bug sitzz?

[esteel]

Hmm i'm almost out of ideas.. for once it seems like a hardware/driver problem as you said you (Urmel) have tested other computers and nexuiz is doing fine there..
The new nexuiz 1.5 uses more textures for the models (for the pants/shirts and some models got gloss too now) so the graphic card got more work to do but in general this should be compentsated by the the faster maps and engine tweaks in 1.5. Well maybe there is something strange in your computer setup that makes those additional work hit performance really hard..
If the tweaks i mentioned did not help you might want to test an newer build of the engine.. (nexuizengine20060304beta1.zip)
A fellow gamer had problems with nexuiz being slow.. he somehow disabled the 2.0 shaders..
In worst case one can also try to make a clean install of nexuiz, with no other (older) stuff in it.. and also delete the config.cfg because it might still have some old settings.. When using windows this should be not necessary as config.cfg is in the data directory.. but when using linux it in the directory ~/.nexuiz/data and is used by all versions..
You can also post your config.cfg so others can try it and see how it works for them.. But i almost think it will work fine for others
The jerky movement when specating is caused by the cl_movement.. its a feature to make your own movement smooth. It does so by trying to interpolate where you will be by analyzing your pressed keys.. when specating it also tries to do but as you do not press any button when spectating it makes things worse.. there will be a fix in 1.5.1
Well you might want to try cl_movement 1 vs 0 but i'm also not sure if it might help..

[Urmel]

try to make a clean install of nexuiz, with no other (older) stuff in it

..done..

also delete the config.cfg because it might still have some old settings

deleted and copied from another, well working PC to the problem PC. 100% more performance than before. Without other players. Then started this post.

You can also post your config.cfg so others can try it and see how it works for them.. But i almost think it will work fine for others Smile

Right, it's quite fine, although surely not the perfect one. Would like to attach it copy-ready. Not possible here (?).

he somehow disabled the 2.0 shaders

I'll make a try, but somehow I think it will get worse then

Well you might want to try cl_movement 1 vs 0 but i'm also not sure if it might help..

'mkay, that's what I haven't tried yet.

(nexuizengine20060304beta1.zip)

aaahm Ye. Why not. Gonna do a local test...


So, I think Ive gotta work this evening

Greetings to Nämberch! I'll be there again saturday!

EDIT 06-03-06/11:39pm: the new engine was quite bitchy, slower and choppier than with the actual one. Problems to connect to servers, generall bad connection. Disabling the OpenGL shader was also effortless

[Urmel]

Hi folks, I talked to my hardware technician. He told me to check out my BIOS settings concerning AGP Speed (1x/2x/4x/8x) and the Graphic Aperture Size.

Sometimes lower settings give You higher performance, indeed!

I'm working an not at home at the moment, so I can't check it out. If Nil or Cavaleiro could make a try before, I'm gonna check it out this evening.

[esteel]

Sorry the following answer will mostly be german..
There is this very nice nice guide BIOS compendium. After searching trough it i'm not sure those two bios settings will really help. Nothing is mentioned about those setting affecting the speed. But yeah its worth a try!
Many german words ahead..
AGP Mode: Diese Option erlaubt es Ihnen, den passenden Modus für den AGP-Datentransfer auszuwählen. Mögliche Einstellungen: 1x, 2x und 4x (Werkseinstellung). Bleiben Sie bei 4x, wenn Ihre AGP-Karte dies unterstützt.
AGP Aperture Size (MB): Hier wird für AGP (Accelerated Graphic Port)- Grafikkarten im RAM ein Speicheradressfenster reserviert, in welches die Speicherzugriffe geleitet werden. AGP Speicherzugriffe (Hostzyklen) werden ohne Verzögerung weitergegeben, wenn sie in den reservierten Bereich fallen. Je größer der Wert umso schneller können die in den Hauptspeicher ausgelagerten Texturen dargestellt werden. Der Wert reicht von 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 bis 256 MB. Der Standardwert beträgt 64 MByte. Die Aperture Size ist eine virtuelle Größe und benötigt den angegebenen Speicher nicht dauernd sondern nur bei Bedarf durch die Grafikkarte. Sie können sich näher unter: XXX informieren. Sie sollten einmal die Einstellung mit der Größe ihres halben Arbeitsspeichers versuchen.
*edit* XXX is appearenly no longer in use.. removed the link the the former forum. There are some pron links now

[Urmel]

Well, maybee I have to say it's part of my job to help my technicians troubleshooting in my company which is doin' CAD/CAM Software (also I have to consult our customers choosing the right hardware, so I get the Arschlochkarte when something's not working properly). I've been involved to that kinda stuff for more than 10 Years now. Although I really can't say I'm a specialist.

That's why I was stuck into problems You would'nt believe and even more You wouldn't believe how we solved one or the other problem.

BTW - how is the english expression for the word *Hardwarebeschleunigung* that's appearing in several windows-settings? It could be also very useful bitchin' around with

Generally there's a nice meaning for EDV (=IT) in germany * Ende Der Vernunft * (end of sanity), so there's always a chance to solve something by doing right the wrong thing

[Urmel]

Okay everything done. Effortless.

Forget about "Hardwarebeschleunigung", changing the AGP not possible with my mainboard, changing Graphics Aperture Size was also a flop.

The only thing left was installing a new mouse driver. The new SetPoint driver is not working properly with older mice.

The thing I'd like to know: Does anybody use an old logitech mouse with driver version 9.7.91? Problems

[GreEn`mArine]

The word you're looking for is "Hardwareacceleration"