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Postby esteel » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:01 pm

Does anyone have this card? I read many complains about Nexuiz being slow with that card in general.. and i mean really slow as in too slow for what i would expect. How does Nexuiz run for you?
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Postby Zico » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:09 pm

Well I can't talk about 5200 but my girlfriend has a GF4MX440 wich should be the slowest card in the 4 series as well as 5200 is the slowest on FX series.
I AM able to run Nexuiz fine with this MX440 card but it as necessary to run the game with low.cfg.
With this I was possible to run the game with more than 100 FPS.
I will try to create an optimal performance config for this card on the weekend and post it here.

Additionally other experiences with the 5200 series. My brother owned one. He wanted to play Doom3, but even with ALL effects off and 640x480 it ran at 10FPS or so. A downgrade to an old GF4TI4800 made it much better...
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Postby esteel » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:15 pm

Right now i'm looking for owners of exactly that card as i have read some bad reports in other forums..
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Postby Zico » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:18 pm

I know :)

I know this kind of cards very well. I haven't one here, but I can try to fit a configuration to the MX series, which should run very well on a 5200, too. It's not a bug in the game, it IS the card itself for sure.
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Postby Ed » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:35 pm

I think it's just generally rubbish. Unrelated but from the Tenebrae readme:
5200 may give very bad performance
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Postby Urmel » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:11 pm

I'm here now. You can call me a 5200 specialist (methinks You mean the FX5200, not a "NV" which doesnt exist)

:D

I owned an FX5200 Ultra at home and an FX5200 in my company PC. I have one machine with it at work (which is not used for any games) and I built one in my girfriends PC where I play Nexuiz as well. The Ultra has a few MHz more and is fan cooled. Not so much difference in performance.

The performance of this chips depend quite heavily on the CPU of the rig. Indeed it's quite weak, but Nexuiz was always slightly playable with it. In comparison to the older Nexuiz versions You can achieve about 40 to 50fps in Version 2.0, running on the low.cfg even with a 1024 resolution.

Having in mind this kinda cards are available at 40 Eurons, there's not much to complain about IMHO. Ambitious players however would never be satisfied with ANY cheap VGA.

Zico, the GF4 4800 Ti is an older generation, but was top of the range at that time and expensive like shit. Still it's a very powerful card (even though several current standards arent supported anymore). You just can't compare it to an FX5200 which was always an entry model. Even the MX 440 was higher value than the FX5200. "downgrading" is definately the wrong subscription :D


Valuable informations to performance ranking of VGAs You can also get on this list: http://pc-erfahrung.de/Grafikrangliste.php

Descriptions (in german) about many GPU types and lots of other stuff can be found here: http://pc-erfahrung.de/



esteel: If You are mad about testing a GF5200 we could talk about it 8)
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Postby esteel » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:20 pm

Well that is more like what i would expect. I read several reports of 10fps with that card EVEN with low.cfg.. and thats not good. And i'm glad Urmel reports more then 10 fps :) Can you give me a little more information about that system and drivers?
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Postby Zico » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:27 pm

Urmel... wrote:Zico, the GF4 4800 Ti is an older generation, but was top of the range at that time and expensive like shit. Still it's a very powerful card (even though several current standards arent supported anymore). You just can't compare it to an FX5200 which was always an entry model. Even the MX 440 was higher value than the FX5200. "downgrading" is definately the wrong subscription :D


Well ok, it's hard to describe for me... I'm not so good in speaking english. "downgrading" was just my way to tell "changing to an older generation". But I ineed did not know even a MX440 would be faster.

So sorry from my side, in that case my config I will create would be useless for this card :(
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Postby Urmel » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:54 pm

esteel wrote:Can you give me a little more information about that system and drivers?


my Girlfriends PC is an AMD 1900+ with 512MB RAM (some weeks before it was 256MB and stilly playable). Driver iirc is 1 year old (some 71.xx).

my company PC is a P4 2.6 and at the time the GF5200 was built in, also 512MB RAM. Always the latest drivers, courze :D

my home PC is an AMD 2600+ with a gig of RAM, drivers always up to date.

All systems ave been runinng on Win XP SP2 for years without any reinstall, with huge amounts of software testing fractals and other crap, surely all the three could run much better with a fresh winstallation 8)

Btw Ofram/Opferlamm is quite experienced now in tweaking antique systems under Win XP :mrgreen:
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Postby C.Brutail » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:05 pm

esteel wrote:Well that is more like what i would expect. I read several reports of 10fps with that card EVEN with low.cfg.. and thats not good. And i'm glad Urmel reports more then 10 fps :) Can you give me a little more information about that system and drivers?


Can't be THAT crap :shock: Even my poor Gef2Mx 100/200 can sqeeze out 30 fps on low detailed maps :o
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