Suzuki Liana - A good car

[C.Brutail]

Yes. it WAS. Yesterday, my Father had a very bad crash (he was the innocent). The car got stoned, but thank's God my father got only a few scrathes.
To anyone who likes to break speed limits: go fuck yourself!

[Urmel]

As a Motorbike owner I am frequently in trouble with non-speedlimit-breaking ppl who drive extremely careful and slow but seem to have left their mind or eyes at home, or whatever makes them think they're alone or generally privileged on the street.

I'm breaking speed limits every day. However I'm doing this in a nearly responsible way and I've never brought anybody else into serious trouble with that or even caused an accident. I really feel with you man, but life itsself is dangerous (actually nobody will survive life), shit happens everyday and the only way is awareness of life's dangers.

Your dad remained healthy, be thankful for that and don't tell anybody to fuck himself (especially while driving)

[C.Brutail]

Imho nobody can tell "I'm breaking speed limit responsively". As you said, shit happens all the time. And what happens, if "shit happens", and you kill yourself? Don't you feel responsible to your wife, to her kids? I won't call this responsibility, in fact this is selfishness.

I'm very very sad about this whole thing. You don't know, but maybe a month ago, "shit happened", and we had to bury my grandma's elder sister, who died becouse of a car accident (at the age of 90 btw, this is nonsens ), and after two weeks, his son died too (he was driving the car). They were the innocents in the accident.
My dad's crash yesterday was very very similar to their's. So you can understand now, why I'm upset about the whole thing so much.

"non-speedlimit-breaking ppl who drive extremely careful and slow but seem to have left their mind or eyes at home"

Imho this is as much bad as breaking speed limits. Not less and not more. Not behaving as the rules tell you is dangerous, it doesn't matter, that it's the breaking the rule of awereness or the rule on the speed limit.

"...and the only way is awareness of life's dangers."

True, so true, but when "shit happens", and it's not you, who was not aware, then this won't really eas your beloved ones.

[Urmel]

I honestly feel with you Brutail. That's all I can say so far. But I'm quite sure it doesn't have any use to try to divide the world into guilty and innocent people, and not at all hanging it up by the ones who follow the rules and who don't. In 21 years and a couple of 100 thousands of kilometers driving my experience says that it's not enough to follow the rules. Or not everything. Sometimes following rules is dangerous.

[C.Brutail]

I totally agree. It just suxxx big time.

[Urmel]

Of course I agree with you too, many many insane people (most of them are quite young and think theyre god or something) are on the streets and messing around like hell, shouldnt be like that.

[ai]

There has not been one single time where I haven't broken the speed limit ever, as far as I remember. I love drive fast, the faster the better. So far I haven't been in an accident at all and I've had the license now for 3 and a half years . Well there was one accident once where I backed the car into a cart and broke the back light of the car. But that was on my house property, not on a road, and I misjudged the distance to it.

I don't think I'll ever change, even if I get caught. But you should not consider me a human being. I'm generally not a nice guy I don't like people telling me what to do so I pretty much do the opposite. I'm a little rebel.

[Psychcf]

there were a group of three assholes on motorcycles driving on a highway, doing wheelies and stuff like that. That's just asking for an accident.

[ai]

Yeah, if they continue they won't live long. I'd like to get a motorcycle myself. I saw this clip on youtube where a guy drives in the traffic congestion in Japan. He drove between the cars and on a few occasions you could see other people do the same thing. I wonder, is that against the law? I would think it is as it's very unsafe.

[Ed]

Sometimes speeding is justified. I frequently have to drive to hospitals to install and fix cardiology equipment. Sometimes it is a situation where a patient might die if it's not done, so yes, when required I will drive a lot more than the speed limit but I only do so if the conditions allow it to be done and of course I'm in a car that's safe at speed, not a Vauxhall Nova SRi with a ship funnel for an exhaust.