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Postby KadaverJack » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:10 pm

[TSA] Psychcf wrote:I would have suggested that but it's a bit weird setting up since a graphical interface isn't installed by default. or has that changed since I last tried debian?

That depends on which configurations you enable in the tasksel menu, iirc "desktop enviroment" is enabled by default, but i'm not a 100% shure and don't feel like running a vm to test atm...
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Postby ai » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:11 am

I've tried to install Fedora now but I get the same thing with it that I get with Ubuntu. As soon as I've installed it and am about to boot it I either get into a place where "grub" is your command line (instead of C:/, user@comp>, etc.) and from there I'm stuck. When I switch the cables in my computer, the same way it worked for openSUSE, I get a black screen after the boot menu from Fedora.
I think it's my motherboard or something that's at fault. I think it hates Linux. I have 5 SATA ports, but apparently only the first one actually acts like SATA, and it's with that that openSUSE worked (first one has a different color that the others). But as soon as I choose the other ports my SATA hdd acts like it was an IDE disk.
Could be bios too, but I'm not yet ready to update bios as when morfar tried it 3 times (with his computers), in the way you should, he destroyed them all.
Today I'm going to a friends place, he's kinda a little Linux guru so I'll see what he does, although I don't have high expectations.

Most likely I will have to but another motherboard or something, any tips on which ones are good with Linux?
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Postby divVerent » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:31 am

If that's the only issue, you can reconfigure grub to work.

At the grub> prompt, try:

ls (hd0,0)
ls (hd0,1)
ls (hd0,2)
ls (hd1,0)

etc. until you see a partition with a "boot" folder in it. Assume it's (hd0,2). Then, try:

root (hd0,2)
ls /boot

You will see a file /boot/vmlinuzsomething and a matching initrd file. Use it:

kernel /boot/vmlinuzsomething
initrd /boot/initrdsomething
boot

If you can get the system to run that way - and you should be able to - edit your /boot/grub/grub.conf and update the root line - I suppose it is the "root" line which has the bug.
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Postby Psychcf » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:10 pm

super grub disk will generate a grub configuration file for you iirc...
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Postby ai » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:07 pm

Alright, I now finally have Ubuntu, but it took for me to use another computer than my original as the motherboard on it refused to work with Linux (something with the sata ports, power struggle and IDE port failures).
Now the only problem which I can't 100% go past is that I need Photoshop or some program equivalent to it, Gimp doesn't do the trick. But I suppose I will have to have a "work" computer and a "personal" computer. The work computer will need Windows sadly for some programs (and for most of the games). So work/game computer, bad combination :P But luckily Maya exists for Linux.
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Postby Ed » Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:24 pm

ai wrote:I need Photoshop or some program equivalent to it, Gimp doesn't do the trick.

I know many people find this. Conversely, lots of people, including I can not stand Photoshop having got used to Gimp and it's really weird interface. I don't like Photoshop from a largely technical standpoint as it seems pretty clueless at image compression. I've had to fix enough bloated badly encoded JPEG's from Photoshop users to get this stage of frustration though.

If it's just a user interface thing (Gimp is a very powerful program) then Gimpshop may help your transition:
http://www.gimpshop.com/

Krita would be the next best bet, however as you use a Gnome based desktop there may be large dependency chains to deal with as it's a KDE app. It should be in a repository I would have thought.
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Postby Psychcf » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:32 pm

gimp's UI makes much more sense in 2.4, so I'd try that out.
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Postby ai » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:44 pm

Well, I've just started with Gimp so I have many more functions to explore. The UI of Gimp doesn't bother me at all, I just hope it's functionality is enough for my needs. I may have been to quick to say Gimp might not do the trick, and I hope as I explore the universe of Gimp I find it to be good.
I will check out that gimpshop thing, thanks for the link :D
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Postby KadaverJack » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:03 pm

Ed wrote:If it's just a user interface thing (Gimp is a very powerful program) then Gimpshop may help your transition:
http://www.gimpshop.com/

Anyone ever managed to get gimpshop working on linux? I tried a while ago and didn't succeed. The source code is unusable since every file contains some weird binary header, so it won't compile and the debian package is horrible (it installs everything to /usr/local) and didn't have a different gui than regular gimp.
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