Humans

[Vermin]

dude what? If we're so weak how can we have survived to become the dominant race?
Besides, I dont attack dogs for no reason, I rather like dogs, but when a large dog comes running at you at an alarming speed through the forest I dont really think you have much of a choice but to defend yourself, besides, the dog was fine.

I may not be able to swim super fast or run really fast or jump really high or climb really fast. But, I can do all of them decently, no other animal can do all of that as well as we can. Of course some animals can do one or two or three (at tops) better than us but we can still do one or more better than them.


And then theres intelligence.
Sure, intelligence kicks some major ass but you still cant do shit without these awsome arms and legs. Seriously, to kill a bear one must lift a large heavy object onto a high place and push it off onto the bear when the bear comes to eat the bait.

Intelligence is required, the ability to climb is required and the muscle power to lift a heavy object into the tree.


By the way, humans are naturally very strong and flexible. However, this society which ultimatly forces us to live in chairs, makes us weak and stiff. A wild human would be probably one of the most dangerous animal around.
A human can't just be "weak" .
We eat the same foods and we're made of the same stuff as our fellow animals. (and
we're mamals, the sturdiest animals around)

And why is it that you assume I am acting on grudge/revenge? I am acting on pure instinct, if a ball is thrown at you the you catch or move.
If an animal is moving at high velocity through a forest after you you instinctivly kick it.
I said that I had attacked the dog because it never actually did anything, I just did somthing before it could do anything.

[Vermin]

And if PETA wants to do somthing for defending myself, I'll fucking kick them in the face to.

[ai]

dude what? If we're so weak how can we have survived to become the dominant race?

Why we have become the dominant race is because, and only because, of our intelligence. 300 years ago we were only 2 million humans scattered around the planet, but since 1700 up to now we have multiplied like crazy (6.8 billion). Because we create our own food, we create a safe place for our children and we have medicines that cures deceases. People died from a simple scar infection before.

But what goes that we are weak, yes we are, though I'm not saying we are the weakest species out there. It's not because of our arms and legs we have been able to form and hold stuff, it's because of the thumbs. Without thumbs it would have been hard to get to where we are now.

A wild human would be dangerous yes, but not the most dangerous out there. But that doesn't matter as there aren't many wild humans out there and there probably never will if we continue to evolve the society.
There are only two thinks human can do better than an animal, and that is thinking and flexibility. Yet again, it's not because of our arms and legs, but because we walk on two legs. If another animal walked on two legs they would eventually become as flexible as us.
But in terms of strength to other animals, we are one of the weakest ones. Ants, dogs, wolves, birds, bears, they are all stronger than us, especially their jaws. If you where to be matched up against any one of these and they were as big as you, you would have a hard time.

But of course are cats, dogs and birds weaker than us now cause they are smaller than us, so of course they don't stand much of a chance. But if you where to be teamed up against a bear as big of a difference than we are to dogs, you most certainly would be defeated as easily as dogs by humans.

However, the whole point is that, we should NOT rejoice of our humanity, if we should rejoice it's because of our ability to think logically and intelligently. But we should rejoice as much as any other species that does something better than other species. We are not special, we are just a little different, just like all the animals.
Instead of keen sense of smell, good hearing, the ability to fly or good eyesight, what we have is intelligence, which in this case turned out to be a very valuable.

[Vermin]

Ants? dude seriously. Things work differently on a scale that small.
If an ant were our size it would die from its own weight.
Wolves are stronger than us now, but a wild human would be stronger than a wolf.


And didint you hear about that marine killing a bear with a log? Thats pretty much what our relationship would have been with bears when we were still wild.


About intelligence, its great and all and so are our thumbs, but remember, if you know how to make an axe but you dont have the muscle power to swing it and chop down a tree, whats the point?

[C.Brutail]

Has this thread anything to do with Nexuiz?

[ai]

Has this thread anything to do with Nexuiz?

Everything Well, someone could move this thread to the Alientrap - General Discussion place. It would be more appropriate. I do like this conversation though ^_^

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Anyway. Do you have actual fact that the ant would collapse under its own weight if they were our size? I wouldn't think it did. But the point is that, an ant IS stronger than a human. It can lift way above it's own weight, we hardly can even lift 1/4 or our weight.
Wild humans are gone. There's no point in talking about those. It's pretty much the same thing as I would talk about us still being apes with tails and stuff and swinging in trees. I'm talking current time, current humans. In fact, I wish we would be like we were before, we were stronger, faster, more active and alert.
I also said we aren't weakest, and certainly not so weak that we cannot lift an axe. I'm talking in relation to other animals.

And nope, didn't hear about that with the marine killing a bear with a log. Ultimately it wasn't the log that helped him win, it was his intelligence I bet. If he wouldn't know what to do with the log it wouldn't be much of use. For instance, give that bear a log, do you he would win if he had one?
Now I'm not saying it's impossible to kill a bear, bears come in all sizes. I was talking about a bear as big of a difference than we are to dogs. That's up to a three humans stacked together, turn that into a bear and viola, you have a big fight on your hands.

[Vermin]

Hardly lift 1/4 our own weight??? I can pick up people my own size and bigger and carry them around.

There is a reason why orthropods are small. It is because without nescessary amounts of oxygen or low gravity it is impractical to have such a dense exo skeleton.

[Vermin]

It was not just the humans intellegience it was those handy dandy little thumbs and arms that aloud the human to kill the bear. We may be a weaker compared to many animals but we can do more things than other animals can with that limited strength.

We can throw a log, we can chop a tree, we can strangle an attacking animal and we can climb, swim, run, and dig.

[Vermin]

Everything is a balance, without one thing the others are irrelevant.

[ai]

I don't want this to be a topic like 'Humans vs all other species". I'm mainly talking about we should not rejoice over anything, cause as we can rejoice by all the things we do better than other animals, the other animals can rejoice over what they do better than us.

EDIT: For instance, if you were to throw out any human who lives in a big city, buying food in stored and whatnot into the wild, how long would he be able to survive. Would he be able to find food and most importantly water without resorting to robbing a mall or something. We pretty much have forgotten how to survive on our own, how to hunt and etc.