IllFonic's Nexuiz

[Psychcf]

Well, I found out about this today, and I have to say, I'm very disappointed.

The PS3 port is a completely different game, running on a different platform. This fractures the community, between those who play it on the PC, and those who play it on the console. The PC version is very different from the PS3 version, so we don't necessarily gain PC users.

The second thing is that many people worked hard to "spread Nexuiz" because they felt it was the best open source game out there, better then some commercial games even. Now all that effort is benefiting a closed source game. A lot of people feel exploited, including myself.

Third, people's contributions were sold and closed without their permission. Unless they gave up rights to vermuelen, then they still own those contributions, and can sue for a GPL violation. No CLA was signed, so this should be the case.

I think the biggest problem is the whole name thing though.

[The mysterious Mr. 4m]

I'm really curious as of what's the real reason for the deal. I don't see much profit for IllFonic, considering the Linux projects for PS3. People will rather move in that direction, instead of buying a closed-source version of Nexuiz, just to play it on the console.

[Rad Ished]

"To the question, why did he let them use the same exact title as Nexuiz? Vermeulen didnt gave a clearly statement, he just said: "When the deal happened I was under the impression there would be a suffix and I still would like a suffix, more importantly to me is this game actually happening"
from
http://www.moddb.com/games/nexuiz
Some other information there that is new to me.

[Roanoke]

So far we haven't received (if we have please do link and prove me wrong) any explanation as to why Illfonic decided to use exactly the same name. So my simple question is - why?

I think this question is rather obvious to answer, since with the name "Nexuiz" comes the whole reputation the community has built up.

And what reputation has the community built up? Hardly anybody outside of this community knows about us. As is apparent, this whole community resents this action. Therefore, by keeping the same name, they can have both of the people that know about nexuiz and are outside of this community, because I don't think anybody here is thrilled about this clandestine negotiation on the part of Lee and Forest.

[Roanoke]

Also, what was Vermulean's and Hale's price?

[MC SE7EN]

Everyone opposed can join this group. No, we won't change anything, but at least we can voice our opposition. It's not like we have another option.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=369525248850

[Roanoke]

I think that signing the petition is more efficient (see my sig)

[MC SE7EN]

So… can we at least get some stuff they're putting in the console version for the PC version? Dynamic mid-match mutators? They can't keep all the good stuff on the consoles and use our name… speaking of the name, that's part of the whole community-driven essence of the game. If I remember correctly, it got the spelling it has now when someone typo'd while registering the domain name… How can they take THAT and use it for their own game? Why can't they call it something else, if the only thing it has in common with Nexuiz is the Dark Places engine? Why does it have to be called Nexuiz?

And why does the REAL Nexuiz only get a little badge in the corner of the page on nexuiz.com? If you ask me, Fake Nexuiz should be the one getting the little badge in the corner, because Real Nexuiz was the original!

[Roanoke]

[quote="MC SE7EN"]So… can we at least get some stuff they're putting in the console version for the PC version? Dynamic mid-match mutators? They can't keep all the good stuff on the consoles and use our name… speaking of the name, that's part of the whole community-driven essence of the game. If I remember correctly, it got the spelling it has now when someone typo'd while registering the domain name… How can they take THAT and use it for their own game? Why can't they call it something else, if the only thing it has in common with Nexuiz is the Dark Places engine? Why does it have to be called Nexuiz?

And why does the REAL Nexuiz only get a little badge in the corner of the page on nexuiz.com? If you ask me, Fake Nexuiz should be the one getting the little badge in the corner, because Real Nexuiz was the original![/quote]
You see all of those points you made above?
Invalid.
Nexuiz is sucking illfonic off, and there's nothing we can do but wait and stigmatize.

[MC SE7EN]

Furthermore, the media page updated still point to nexuiz.com, which I think should probably be changed to the alientrap page...