Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

[halogene]

How come too late? No editing of the initial post?

Hmmm I guess no one would mind if I changed that, but then again this error is not that grave either, is it.

I'm not talking about insulting anyone but just taking a clearer position against hijacking the name.
And a clear statement against a GPL violation, if one will be proven.

Ah ok. About that GPL violation I am not so sure myself if we will be able to prove that nor if there will be a violation at all. So in my opinion its best to leave it at mentioning that there are debates about GPL violations. If we find out about violations lateron, then we should of course take action.

I am wondering a bit how the text could be clearer about our position against hijacking the name... I mean, that is the intended main message of the text? If that isn't clear enough, maybe we should still work on the text a bit more. Anyway, it is not up to me to decide when this is final or not in the first place, only it was lying there on piratepad for 24 hours without a significant change...

[sev]

Signed.

About the name issue: I would think the point is well made.
If the statement is held back too long because of details, it will loose its significance.
And if it would be revised again, it would have to be (re-)re-signed.

[a_grue]

I'd like to clarify my problems with the text:
1. too soft
2. even if they bend over the name, that won't make AT an appropriate FOSS maintainer
3. doesn't suggest any kind of plan in case the name stays the same
4. and it's clear by now that the name does stay the same

Not to discourage anyone from signing, of course. Do what you think is right.

[tZork]

Strong words weaken an otherwise good argument.

I'm not talking about insulting anyone but just taking a clearer position against hijacking the name.
And a clear statement against a GPL violation, if one will be proven.

Yes indeed. But theres nothing stopping further statements from group/s of ppl wanting to highlight specific issues. Lets hope there will be some of that, done with the same great care, too.

[halogene]

I'd like to clarify my problems with the text:
1. too soft
2. even if they bend over the name, that won't make AT an appropriate FOSS maintainer
3. doesn't suggest any kind of plan in case the name stays the same
4. and it's clear by now that the name does stay the same

Not to discourage anyone from signing, of course. Do what you think is right.

Thanks for clarifying. I think the main reason why there is no plan mentioned in case IllFonic doesn't change the name is that there is none. Either we have a silly parallel world with that console version or we start using a different name for our project, both options are not satisfying at all.

Apart from that I don't agree to 1. and 2., but that may be only me.

[Blackmushroom]

Signed.

[BennyDacks]

Signed. [ToX]BennyDacks

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[Banshee]

signed.
cheers.

[d3drocks]

SIGNED!


I also hereby boycott all of illfonic's products, and future products (dont know if they have ever managed to man up and release their own stuff, dont care either).

[halogene]

I'd like to clarify my problems with the text:
1. too soft
2. even if they bend over the name, that won't make AT an appropriate FOSS maintainer
3. doesn't suggest any kind of plan in case the name stays the same
4. and it's clear by now that the name does stay the same

Not to discourage anyone from signing, of course. Do what you think is right.

Thanks for clarifying. I think the main reason why there is no plan mentioned in case IllFonic doesn't change the name is that there is none. Either we have a silly parallel world with that console version or we start using a different name for our project, both options are not satisfying at all.

Apart from that I don't agree to 1. and 2., but that may be only me.

I might add that there is always the possibility to take further actions, including setting up another statement that clearly states a course of action or consequences. Is there anything in the text that is expressing something you couldn't agree to? Because looking at your explanation I am only seeing things that are missing from your point of view. If not, then you could, in theory, still sign it and start to prepare a follow up text that includes the items that you think are missing.

Just a thought, but of course it is your own decision and I respect that in any case.