Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby a_grue » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:32 am

halogene wrote:
halogene wrote:
a_grue wrote:2. even if they bend over the name, that won't make AT an appropriate FOSS maintainer


I might add that there is always the possibility to take further actions, including setting up another statement that clearly states a course of action or consequences. Is there anything in the text that is expressing something you couldn't agree to? Because looking at your explanation I am only seeing things that are missing from your point of view. If not, then you could, in theory, still sign it and start to prepare a follow up text that includes the items that you think are missing.

Just a thought, but of course it is your own decision and I respect that in any case.

According to the letter, the dispute will be settled if IllFonic changes the name. I, however, advocate either p.3 here, or plan A here. Both of these two options suggest that a name change would be insufficient. The former doesn't seem relevant anymore, so right now I see fork as the only solution.
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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby halogene » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:04 am

a_grue wrote:According to the letter, the dispute will be settled if IllFonic changes the name. I, however, advocate either p.3 here, or plan A here. Both of these two options suggest that a name change would be insufficient. The former doesn't seem relevant anymore, so right now I see fork as the only solution.

Thanks for explaining, now I understand your point of view.

In my opinion, this is all about bad decisions. Decisions are being made by people, and people make mistakes. Now, I don't know any of the people involved personally, so I cannot judge if any one of them is a complete ass-hat. So I basically assume none of them is. Therefore, from my point of view it is a good idea to be open for people correcting the mistakes they have made instead of cutting all ties immediately.

I agree, though, that there needs to be a discussion about the future of Nexuiz in general. But I feel not in the position to make any suggestions in that respect, I mean, I am a PLAYER of this game, not a contributor (except for maybe Noob teaching, helping out with information if I coincidentally happen to have them and participating in spam threads on the forum once in a while).
<Community>: Why was the name "Nexuiz" licensed to IllFonic in a way that allows IllFonic to use the name without any suffix or subtitle for a commercial console game?
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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby [RBI]Karl Ranseier » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:53 pm

Signed.
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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby R.A.T.Washing.M » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:24 pm

Clear message halogene.

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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Growl » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:47 pm

Signed!

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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby -maniac|Su- » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:21 pm

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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby alien_I_ » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:23 pm

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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Komier » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:25 pm

Do I just say "Signed" here, then? :D

Signed

I noticed a few minor grammar errors, but, as you mentioned earlier, I didn't see any that were grave, and it seems to be too late to edit. I would like to say that my only real problem is the use of "Nexuiz" without a ":(sub name)".
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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby Mirio » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:56 pm

halogene wrote:...or we start using a different name for our project...


That would be an "own goal" in my opinion. Hope it will never happen..

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and Signed by the [BOT] clan as well - http://www.bot-nexuiz.de.tl/
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Re: Nexuiz Community Statement: IllFonic's Nexuiz

Postby halogene » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:29 pm

Thanks for all your signatures!
<Community>: Why was the name "Nexuiz" licensed to IllFonic in a way that allows IllFonic to use the name without any suffix or subtitle for a commercial console game?
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