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How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby MirceaKitsune » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:57 pm

Someone randomly shown this to me. With no further comment to add, here it is:

IP Alliance says that encouraging free/open source makes you an enemy of the USA

The US-based International Intellectual Property Alliance has asked the US Trade Rep to add Indonesia to its list of rogue nations that don't respect copyright. What did Indonesia do to warrant inclusion on this "301 list"? Its government had the temerity to advise its ministries to give preference to free/open source software because it will cost less and reduce the use of pirated proprietary software in government. According to the IPA, this movement to reduce copyright infringement is actually bad for copyright, because "it fails to build respect for intellectual property rights and also limits the ability of government or public-sector customers (e.g., State-owned enterprise) to choose the best solutions."

This is like crack dealers campaigning against having a laugh with friends because happiness reduces the need for intoxicants. This is like... well, it's like a bunch of fat-cat scumbags behaving so shamefully that you want to smack them.

Let's forget that the statement ignores the fact that there are plenty of businesses built on the OSS model (RedHat, Wordpress, Canonical for starters). But beyond that, it seems astonishing to me that anyone should imply that simply recommending open source products - products that can be more easily tailored without infringing licensing rules - "undermines" anything.

In fact, IP enforcement is often even more strict in the open source community, and those who infringe licenses or fail to give appropriate credit are often pilloried.

If you're looking at this agog, you should be. It's ludicrous.

But the IIPA and USTR have form here: in recent years they have put Canada on the priority watchlist.


Wow, just wow. And please don't miss angusm's comment over there. Since it's too good not to quote:

angusm wrote:The idea that anything can or should be free is a pernicious falsehood that threatens to undermine our whole way of life. If we let people have software for free, soon they'll start believing that other things - air, water, sunlight etc. - should also be free. In the 1960s, we knew what to call that kind of thinking and we called it Communism. Then, as now, the only thing standing in the way of a Communist victory was our willingness to fight them on the battlefields of South-East Asia.

We at the IIPA recognize that not all those involved in the open-source movement are necessarily malicious, but they are nonetheless tampering with forces beyond their control and setting a terrible precedent.

Our motto: "Keeping you free by making sure that nothing else is."


Yep, that's from a human being on our planet alright. Some people are sadly lost, more than it can be expected until you actually see it...
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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby parasti » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:10 pm

The commenter is just being sarcastic. I have more to say on the topic, but right now I'm off to the supermarket to buy some air cans for the weekend...
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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby Silica Gel: Do Not Eat » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:15 am

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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby Lee_Stricklin » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:44 am

Wow. That just made my country look even worse than it already did. There's a HUGE fucking difference between recommending open source applications over proprietary ones than illegally using proprietary applications. I wonder if Uncle Scam will actually add them to the list.
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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby Flying Steel » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:24 am

This is like... well, it's like a bunch of fat-shit corporate dick-wads fucking the world in the ass so much that you want to punch out their teeth and then cannonade them with a dozen 100-megajoule railguns.


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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby halogene » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:26 am

Wow. The IIPA's statement in full:

http://www.iipa.com/rbc/2010/2010SPEC301INDONESIA.pdf

endorsing the use of open source software is one of three items they are objecting to - but nonetheless this is seriously sickening.
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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby Aleator » Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:30 am

Yes, I read about this a few days back. I was disgusted. I just hope there's gonna be protests and stuff. Or else it might go downhill from here...
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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby Ed » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:07 pm

Guess by just posting here we're all getting added to the list too. :D
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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby MirceaKitsune » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:01 pm

Disgusting indeed. It's what I call "the commercial mentality", when the idea of making money is not that it's necessary to survive and get stuff, but becomes an obsession mentality wise (which imo is the next step following the "I want more money and power for *me*" issue). I'm guessing that's the higher form of greed, as someone there commented.

parasti wrote:The commenter is just being sarcastic. I have more to say on the topic, but right now I'm off to the supermarket to buy some air cans for the weekend...


I think he meant it or at least the message behind it... it's not uncommon for many people in powerful companies (especially software). And yeah, I was going to buy myself a few rays of sunlight today, and pay a fine for illegally seeing a nice patented sunset.
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Re: How to become an enemy of the USA

Postby Lamoot » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:49 pm

Aleator wrote:Yes, I read about this a few days back. I was disgusted. I just hope there's gonna be protests and stuff. Or else it might go downhill from here...


Google, IBM, Nokia, Intel, Redhat + any other company using any of the open source standards (OpenGL for example), this includes Apple, Sony and other big names in the software industry. Also add the city of San Francisco and others. These are all big obstacles to overcome for someone who wants to get rid of Open Source :) or proclaim users of open source are the enemy of USA.
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