Slow performance with games

[tZork]

Regarding the low power PSU: It is indeed *very* low with a 200w psu, but not impossible to make it work. Afaik all 6600gt agp cards need extra power from a aditional power from a molex power connector. Are you sure this is plugged it? I use a 6600gt myself, and if i forget to plug in the power connector i get a message from the drivers as soon as i start the comuter that the gpu is operating in low power mode, due to the lack of power.

Another thig that comes to mind: the powerlevel may be enougth during idle operation but not enougth during maximum load. This may be why it seems to work, but never get any real preformace.

Also make sure you chipset drivers are correctly installed. When uppgtading you vga drivers you should always deinstall the old one first. If you dont do this the uppgrade may not be 100% compleate.

[Zico]

And upgrade the PSU...
Even if it's connected to the Card you will never get the performance you need....
200W are DEFINATELY not enough.

[Ed]

I run my 6600GT fine on a 250W. That is in a Shuttle though so everything else is pretty low. I had previously run an FX5900 on a 200W which if anything is a lot worse. It depends upon the quality of the PSU too. Unless your machine is an SFF machine with a bespoke (expensive) PSU it'll be easy to get a bigger one. To test it, download Speedfan and see what the voltages it reports are like. If they're miles off (ie, +12V at only 10.x V) then it's defintely the PSU.

Celeron: 60W
6600GT: 60W
2xHDD: 25W
2xCD: 10W
RAM: 5W
Motherboard: 20W
Floppy: 5 Watt

That's 205W. Something won't run correctly from a 200W. But something like an Antec Neopower HE. They're the most effecient power supplies.

[phil55au]

Regarding the low power PSU: It is indeed *very* low with a 200w psu, but not impossible to make it work. Afaik all 6600gt agp cards need extra power from a aditional power from a molex power connector. Are you sure this is plugged it? I use a 6600gt myself, and if i forget to plug in the power connector i get a message from the drivers as soon as i start the comuter that the gpu is operating in low power mode, due to the lack of power.

Another thig that comes to mind: the powerlevel may be enougth during idle operation but not enougth during maximum load. This may be why it seems to work, but never get any real preformace.

Also make sure you chipset drivers are correctly installed. When uppgtading you vga drivers you should always deinstall the old one first. If you dont do this the uppgrade may not be 100% compleate.

i do not get any errors what so ever...nor i do know how to put my pc together =) and reinstall the old drivers blah blah and know all that stuff already i just need help with the performance....its very slow...yeah thats a good point actually....i guess i need to buy a new psu..if i get a 400-450w would that be enough power?

[phil55au]

I run my 6600GT fine on a 250W. That is in a Shuttle though so everything else is pretty low. I had previously run an FX5900 on a 200W which if anything is a lot worse. It depends upon the quality of the PSU too. Unless your machine is an SFF machine with a bespoke (expensive) PSU it'll be easy to get a bigger one. To test it, download Speedfan and see what the voltages it reports are like. If they're miles off (ie, +12V at only 10.x V) then it's defintely the PSU.

Celeron: 60W
6600GT: 60W
2xHDD: 25W
2xCD: 10W
RAM: 5W
Motherboard: 20W
Floppy: 5 Watt


That's 205W. Something won't run correctly from a 200W. But something like an Antec Neopower HE. They're the most effecient power supplies.

ok im downloading the utility now and i will post the results...and also i disconnected the floppy so i gain an extra 5W which makes it 200w even...

[phil55au]

ok here are the results

vcore: 1.492-1.589V
+3.3v: 3.31V
+5.0v: 4.92V
+12v: 11.25
-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v
+5VSB: 5.59v
VBAT: 0.16v

temp1,temp2,local temp,,remote temp,HD0,HD1 keeps changing to blue down arrow and a green tick does that mean anything?

[KadaverJack]

-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v

*ouch!*
If those values are correct, you should better get a stronger psu, your current one might burn soon...

[phil55au]

-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v

*ouch!*
If those values are correct, you should better get a stronger psu, you current one might burn soon...

really?wow...i never knew that....my psu now wont damage my mobo or any components inside if i leave it in there until i get a new psu? now im worried

[tChr]

vcore: 1.492-1.589V
+3.3v: 3.31V
+5.0v: 4.92V
+12v: 11.25

These are all good

-12v: -5.45v
-5v: 0.73v

These mean when your PSU should produve -12V, it produces -5.45 and when it should produce -5V it produces 0.73V!

These values are insane. If this was my computer I would turn it off immediatly, and not turn it on until i got a new power. It is a miracle that your hardware is sill working (if it hasent taken a beating allready), and its almost as miracolous that your PSU has not burned, litererally. Also this annot be a new PSU, as no new PSUs produce only 200W, unless this is a barebone, or very small computer (like a shuttle) also a new power would shut it self down you you made it go through this.

This is not to scare you, its ment as an imminent piece of advice, but please know that what I'm saying is true.

My computer is less power consuming than yours, yet i use 400W power, and would not do any less, i have a computer with 8 HDs and nothing more, that i got a 700W power for.

If you have to use your computer, disconnect _everything_ you dont abseloutly ned, like the secondary hard drive, the DVD driver, and I would consider putting in a much weaker screencard until I got a new PSU.

Also remember, allthough this is getting technical, that you cannot just add all the power consumption of the devices together and assume that if they are less than the PSU staded max, that it will work OK. there are such things as start-up power consumption for the devices and so on. You also are using a switch-mode power spupply (all PC powers are) and its active effect is different from the reactive effect, especially if you have an unstable power connection to your house. (wich i dont think you have, since your PC is still running)

please get a new power

Edit:
I dont think you have harmed anything yet, but you might, if you keep this up.

[phil55au]

wow,..i never knew that jeese..thats bad...i have an ATX ..after finding that info out...im asking myself the same question of how i could get it working...suppose my knowledge is doing me good...but with what you told me...what do u mean that the PSU will ''burn''?
you aint scaring me lol cuz ive been running my comp like this for 2 years.upgrading since.
oh and i have also tried what you said...few weeks back...i just connect the video card,
1HDD 1 DVD-rom drive d/c the 1 fan,but still no luck...vice versa with just the video card and HDD..stil lthe same prob...