Nexuiz 2.5 released!

[bts]

I too think it's kinda dumb that you lose points when dropping the flag. Getting punished for trying to play the game and doing the right thing is not such a good thing. But the upside is that it ultimately doesn't affect the main score as only caps count. But still, it's kind of a mixed feeling when your team won but half of your teammates have negative scores.

Exactly.

Models... I won't comment them anymore - this is just a matter of taste.

And thank you esteel for tip of adjusting scoreboard, I'll try.

I can't comment much on the menu however. I bet they had their reasons in doing as they did, I myself don't really mind. For me it's easy to find stuff and it's a bit different from other games. But, if you don't like tabs then you must dislike most of the newer browsers, or? :P

I love tabs in browsers. I'm using Opera and I can't realize how I'd surf the net without it and mouse gestures.

But Nexuiz isn't a browser. ;-) In my opinion, the typical ("normal") game menu just looks better. And again it's a matter of taste.

As for protecting the flag carrier.. I think thats good because protecting the flag carrier should be part of CTF.. however on good maps its basicly impossible to do that via camping, one has to go with the flag carrier and >I< think thats good as its TEAMPLAY!

But I don't mean that other gamers play protective for FC, but himself plays protective. It doesn't affect in any way the teamplay - human nature is egoistic, typical gamer isn't interested in actuall flag carrier life and score (or better - he is interrested, in this sense, that he [gamer] want to FC die). And it won't change with negative points for flag carrier. It would change only, if all guys from one team get negative points when flag carrieer from this team looses the flag. Yeah, guys, it's amazing idea for you! It will increase cooperation in team, don't you think? :-)

It's irony of course. I'm sure, that negative points for anything (except killing teammate, if FF is on) are bad.

[alpha]

Yeah, I agree with you bts and Alien. I too think it's kinda dumb that you lose points when dropping the flag. Getting punished for trying to play the game and doing the right thing is not such a good thing. But the upside is that it ultimately doesn't affect the main score as only caps count. But still, it's kind of a mixed feeling when your team won but half of your teammates have negative scores.

tl;dr version:

current scoring is dumb.

[esteel]

My point is that negative points ALLOW the team so see that some guy is always grabbing the flag and loosing it again.. Meaning someone else should try or at least assist! What good is a FC that always looses the flag again and again? Its good for the team to see that fact. Actually someone even had the idea to make a certain negative score prevent people from grabbing the flag at all.. but thats a bit too harsh

[alpha]

My point is that negative points ALLOW the team so see that some guy is always grabbing the flag and loosing it again.. Meaning someone else should try or at least assist! What good is a FC that always looses the flag again and again? Its good for the team to see that fact. Actually someone even had the idea to make a certain negative score prevent people from grabbing the flag at all.. but thats a bit too harsh

People are ignorant, and they don't care. The only thing that 2.5 scoring acheived is to piss the hell out of flag carriers, the only people on the whole god damn nexuiz who actually want ctf to be ctf and not nex camper fest

[esteel]

Heh, just setup your scoreboard to no longer display the scores, just frags and cap.. and live happily till the end

[bts]

I should disable scoreboard at all to live happily, when I don't see me on bottom of this - from top in 2.4.2 version.

But I won't.

Now I'll stay in base and defend. I'll camp somewhere, killing enemies trying to take the flag- it's now the more efficient way to get frags than captureing and trying to return the flag.
Maybe, if I'll exercise enough, I'll be back on the top of sb - with other campers.

And this is effect of your changes. ;-) Campers on top, FCs on bottom.

[esteel]

No.. A successful FC's will still get lots of points for capturing.. besides, i would really appreciate it if more people would defend the base. On public matches hardly someone does. So please join the server i play on!!!