Nexuiz 2.5.1 released!

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Postby Flying Steel » Mon May 11, 2009 3:44 pm

tZork wrote:
divVerent wrote:That's how most artists are. They don't care for that legal stuff.


what the fuck?! have you been taking classes from mikee on how to offend large groups of ppl at once? you know better then that. at least i thought you did.


I don't really think it's that big of a deal. I'm an artist, and I do think data should be free. You can't own and control information because it is abstract, it has no physical presence or limitations to quantity and as such no one can "steal" it from you, they can only copy it, which doesn't deprive you of it (which is what actual stealing would do).

But that aside when we contribute to open projects, we just have to check that whatever materials we use are GPL or PD (or double check in the case of CC licenses which are more complex and some of which might be bullshit when it comes to being "Common", imo). And of course you always have the option to make it all from scratch, which is the safest and most glorious route. 8)
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Postby tZork » Mon May 11, 2009 8:36 pm

Flying Steel wrote:
tZork wrote:
divVerent wrote:That's how most artists are. They don't care for that legal stuff.


what the fuck?! have you been taking classes from mikee on how to offend large groups of ppl at once? you know better then that. at least i thought you did.


I don't really think it's that big of a deal. I'm an artist, and I do think data should be free. You can't own and control information because it is abstract, it has no physical presence or limitations to quantity and as such no one can "steal" it from you, they can only copy it, which doesn't deprive you of it (which is what actual stealing would do).

But that aside when we contribute to open projects, we just have to check that whatever materials we use are GPL or PD (or double check in the case of CC licenses which are more complex and some of which might be bullshit when it comes to being "Common", imo). And of course you always have the option to make it all from scratch, which is the safest and most glorious route. 8)


Well, what im reacting to is a official alientrap developer making a statement that's roughly equalizes most artists with criminals. not cool.
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Postby Flying Steel » Tue May 12, 2009 3:05 am

tZork wrote:
Flying Steel wrote:
tZork wrote:
divVerent wrote:That's how most artists are. They don't care for that legal stuff.


what the fuck?! have you been taking classes from mikee on how to offend large groups of ppl at once? you know better then that. at least i thought you did.


I don't really think it's that big of a deal. I'm an artist, and I do think data should be free. You can't own and control information because it is abstract, it has no physical presence or limitations to quantity and as such no one can "steal" it from you, they can only copy it, which doesn't deprive you of it (which is what actual stealing would do).

But that aside when we contribute to open projects, we just have to check that whatever materials we use are GPL or PD (or double check in the case of CC licenses which are more complex and some of which might be bullshit when it comes to being "Common", imo). And of course you always have the option to make it all from scratch, which is the safest and most glorious route. 8)


Well, what im reacting to is a official alientrap developer making a statement that's roughly equalizes most artists with criminals. not cool.


I think Div has made it clear though he doesn't want to be an "official" dev with all of that extra load riding on him simply because he is contributing more than ordinary community members and doing so for free. That's basically having to buy one responsibilty and then getting another one for free. :wink:

I'm unclear on what Alientrap is or how it is organized, but my understanding is Nexuiz at this point is supposed to be a community project with some ranking, but primarily developed by people who just love this game and game development.

Also on a side note, with so many modern countries that imprison and considers criminals, folks for just smoking or eating happy plants and mushrooms and similarly harmless activities, "criminal" doesn't by itself mean all that much. Laws are just very well enforced and temporary opinions, your main reason for obeying them is so that you don't get squashed in your time, place and culture. But I digress. . .
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Postby Flying Steel » Tue May 12, 2009 3:20 am

On the topic of the new release, thanks to everyone who made 2.5-2.5.1 happen, I think this release is basically an improvement on all fronts- better refined physics, a super balanced arsenal that now looks awesome, new weapons that fit more fighting styles and make sense with the pre-existing ones, the jet pack 8) and finally the game has obviously now got alot of attention in the audio department with both music and sound effects.
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Postby Qorl slo » Thu May 14, 2009 3:14 pm

I have a problem,
I download 2.5.1 full zip 8 times and when i extracted files i get CRC problem, the file nexuiz data 20090501 is curupted. I had to reinstal windows 6 times becuse the whole system crashed. I download the file from another computer to make sure that is not a hardware problem. Later one when i extracted i save broken files so i could play. If i didnt do that computer never starts. I use winzip and winrar, I use self repair, to much to count, nothing helps. When I play the game the sound was corupted. The 2.5 didnt work as 2.4.2 either so whatever u guys did is bad. I'm not trying to be mean here, but players are not satisfide, we get lags from nowhere, even i have a ping 50 is hard to play on the servers that use to work.
Dont know what will happened when i run the game now, with new windows and new moterhboard. Old system crashed.
Take care, and try to fix problems, make similar to 2.4.2.
Thanks,
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Postby Banshee » Fri May 15, 2009 7:55 am

I would like to play 2.3 version on 2.5.1 servers, but unfortunately it doesn't work.
Is there anything I could do with it? 2.3 is my favorite version.
help please :?
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Vid_Restart?

Postby NightRage » Fri May 15, 2009 7:03 pm

I Installed 2.5.1 and have many "Video" Crashes, the monitor seems to keep going "Black" and I have to wait about 2 minutes then "Restart' the Computer and Windows Vista Boots up but if I start "Nexuiz" it happens again.

I will uninstall 2.5.1

And wait untill 2.5.2 or something

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Postby Urmel » Fri May 15, 2009 7:44 pm

And you are sure to have an original Nvidia driver installed, not a generic windows one?
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Postby temhawk » Fri May 15, 2009 8:37 pm

Is anyone aware of the constant freezes in 2.5.0 for Mac? I haven't tested 2.5.1 yet.
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Postby divVerent » Fri May 15, 2009 8:44 pm

Apparently a video memory issue. Increase gl_picmip (that is, reduce texture quality in the menu).
1. Open Notepad
2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
3. Save
4. Open the file in Notepad again

You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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