Nexuiz 2.5.1 released!

[temhawk]

Apparently a video memory issue. Increase gl_picmip (that is, reduce texture quality in the menu).

Is that directed at me?

[divVerent]

Yes, as this was the issue for another mac user.

Basically, 2.5 needs much more video memory than previous versions due to larger textures and more weapons, and Macs seem to handle this especially badly.

[divVerent]

If it's not a secret, which shooter is this. I rather liked refueled.

I don't know the legality of it, but using google I found this:

http://modarchive.org/index.php?request ... _songtitle

It will play on any media/music player that will read xm.

Yes. The page says it is GPL, but the file contains data that its copyright holder released commercially and would never give out as GPL.

[divVerent]

That's how most artists are. They don't care for that legal stuff.

what the fuck?! have you been taking classes from mikee on how to offend large groups of ppl at once? you know better then that. at least i thought you did.

No, it's true - but not meant as an insult. Either you're an artist, or you know the laws well. Legal stuff is very complicated, and if you use your time to work on your art, you have no time and no interest to read and understand the laws well enough. Plus, most artists simply don't care, they think "everyone else uses samples from various sources, it's normal, so I do it too".

See also posts of samples on some websites, most people there saying "it's combined from <this commercially released sample> and <this sample found on some website>". It is simply normal... but illegal.

http://www.hammersound.com/cgi-bin/soun ... tLength=15

"This is a soundfont I created from samples of a mellotron choir."
"Contains synthetic organs and "sampled" harpsichords, also acoustic guitars and a few good voices from other sound- fonts."
"4 drumloops from the sample CD Neolithic Beats"
"Sampled from a Future Music CD"

http://www.hammersound.com/cgi-bin/soun ... tLength=15

"It is a stereo Chinese Style Orchestra Hit SoundFont sampled from CD"
"Superb female voice soundfont which has been composed out of mixed and processed opera voices that sound spacious, deep, and expressive."
"My first SoundFont! It is a combination of TronStrings, Campbells Cello,matrix strings and Bright Mellotron. Thanks to all above who contributed their fonts! sfArk (2.64MB/3.67MB)"
"This is a great orchestral Soundfont i made with samples i found on the net."

None of this is GPL compatible, or even legal to use at all.

Well, there are exceptions to this:

"I recorded this today using myself and a mic. You won't find these samples anywhere else, E-Mail Me - <mail address>"

But most such stuff you find on the internet is illegal, because their authors simply don't care about that legal stuff. They care about making something that sounds/looks good, but they don't feel it's their task to learn all the laws. They just take some samples from somewhere, don't care from where, and work hard on improving them, and mixing them with others.

And actually, neither should they have to be lawyers to make music. The copyright system is stupid. But it is there, and we have no power to change it to make more sense, so exactly this can become fair use. IMHO remixing samples should be considered fair use, and even allow them to be used for ANYTHING (that is, they should become copyrighted by the editing guy and lose the original copyright once actual artistic work had been done on them, as long as the artist got the samples using legal means, e.g. buying a sample CD).

Currently, if you buy a "royalty free" sample CD, it does not allow you to redistribute the samples, but the GPL may require you to do so, thus such samples can't be used for GPLed stuff.

If these CDs would allow you to make your own samples based on them by remixing, we'd have much less of a problem, as all that stuff on the net would be safe to use then.

[divVerent]

Well, what im reacting to is a official alientrap developer making a statement that's roughly equalizes most artists with criminals. not cool.

So?

I bet lots of people here are using pirated software (to name some: Windows, MS Office, Photoshop).

I bet lots of people here hear downloaded music from illegal sources (Piratebay, Isohunt, eMule, IRC).

I bet lots of people here use unregistered shareware for purposes or time not allowed with the unregistered version (Terragen, CoolEdit, PaintShop Pro, mIRC).

And I bet lots of people here have no problem with taking a small piece of music from a CD to make samples to make their own music with them.

All this is illegal.

But if everyone who does that went into jail, there wouldn't be much people left. Clearly, the laws became too complicated and too counter-intuitive to actually be held. But with no power to change the situation (as money = power, so the RIAA and similar groups will always have the upper hand in this), this cannot be changed.

Of course, as long as you do this just for your personal good, not many really care. But if such files are published as part of a project (e.g. Nexuiz), we can get into real trouble. Which is what all this is about.

IMHO, when the majority of the population is criminals, it's not their fault, but the country's.

[temhawk]

Yes, as this was the issue for another mac user.

Basically, 2.5 needs much more video memory than previous versions due to larger textures and more weapons, and Macs seem to handle this especially badly.

Okay, it is set to "Low" now and it looks pretty ugly compared to "Normal" as I had it before. I'll test playing an extensive time tomorrow to see if this helps.

[NightRage]

And you are sure to have an original Nvidia driver installed, not a generic windows one?

Yep drivers are allways updated, have a look:

[Zardoz]

Yes, as this was the issue for another mac user.

Basically, 2.5 needs much more video memory than previous versions due to larger textures and more weapons, and Macs seem to handle this especially badly.

Okay, it is set to "Low" now and it looks pretty ugly compared to "Normal" as I had it before. I'll test playing an extensive time tomorrow to see if this helps.

You might want to look at setting "gl_texturecompression 0" (that is setting texture compression to "none" in the menu) if you're using 2.5 (it is the default in 2.5.1). This helps some with the ugly on my MacBook Pro .

Also, I (and others?) have found 2.5.1 much more unstable on Macs so, well, YMMV.

[caramel1982]

Nexuiz 2.5.1 released

I am very satisfied with this released. Most of the bugs were already fixed. Thanks

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[President]

Where can I get the full 2.5.1 for linux?
I just installed Ubuntu in the HDD. And let's see if it runs better in linux than windows like it was said in a thread around this forum.