A team based mod like Team Fortress maybe?
Although it has already been done (for Q1, Q3, Halflife, ET,...) and won't
catch peoples' attention if it doesn't include some cutting-edge features.
+ too many mods can divide an already small community even more.

About crawling ability, vehicles and so on... Well, there are 2 types of shooters.
Let's call them fictional shooters ("shoot the rocket at your feet and you can do
some really nice flying maneuvers") and reality shooters ("shoot the rocket at
your feet and your body parts are lying scattered around the area"). Nexuiz
is of the first type and it should stay like that.

I was thinking things like GMOD, or mabie new kinds of gameplay, also people could use the nexuiz engine (that's probably not the right way to refer to it, but...) to make mabie a single player game.

* work on maps
* better netcode
* better performance
* positionable weapons (left, center, right)
* a nexuiz advertising campaign
* settings optimization tutorial
* sex appeal???
* this: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1295519
* less boxy maps
* cover, vehicles, team modes and exciting new weapons like Half Life 2's gravity gun
* some maps and modes that force high flying
* spark effect AND decals
* actual mod system w/ SDK
* language packs
* Story mode engine

I think that if we were to just add some single player functionality into mapmaking (ie bot spawn points, making different kinds of models for enemies, etc.) and put a singleplayer mode into the game, where you get the story files, it would become a completely new kind of game, anybody who can map, and think of a good story can make story scripts, IE:

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(cutscene plays)
cd track 5
(various other map specific setup)
map story1
(when objective is completed, continue...)
(cutscene plays)
cd track 2
(various other map specific setup)
map story 2
etc...


can create a new game without re-making the engine.

ZWERG wrote:A team based mod like Team Fortress maybe?
Although it has already been done (for Q1, Q3, Halflife, ET,...) and won't
catch peoples' attention if it doesn't include some cutting-edge features.
+ too many mods can divide an already small community even more.

It was already tried using the old 1.2.1 codebase. It kind of fell to the wayside and most of the team went on to start developing it for ioq3

A story engine would be great. I'd imagine there's something like that already implemented for Zym. Zym's release seems like it would strengthen the AT following.

I think the main interface needs a make-over. The graphics don't seem to have much to do with the overall feel of nexuiz. It's more quake-esque than anything. I think something simple with a high-res picture of a character, map or game play would suffice.

A quick mock-up of what I mean:




Along with a make-over, I think the buttons, scrollbars and sliders should be more user-friendly.


One last thing, I don't think you should join the server when you click it in the server list, instead, it should update the server information and there should be a join button.

Wow! Now that's a sexy looking menu art! I'd realy liek to see that one ingame!

[-z-] wrote:One last thing, I don't think you should join the server when you click it in the server list, instead, it should update the server information and there should be a join button.

Oh yeah, thanks for bringing this up. I always wanted to say something about this as this have bothered me a lot but always when I quit Nexuiz I forget Yeah, I really hate that when you click in the server browser just once you join, especially if it's not finished refreshing and you see the server you want to join and click but misses and joins another server. That's really annoying. Has happened to me many times, heh some just don't have the patience to wait till it's finished

ai wrote:Yeah, I really hate that when you click in the server browser just once you join, especially if it's not finished refreshing and you see the server you want to join and click but misses and joins another server. That's really annoying.

Haha! I was actually thinking about games that are full and you're waiting to join when I wrote that but damn, you're right. I hate that too.


Another thing I just noticed while playing... Since the who-killed-who appears in the center of the screen now, it's really hard to see who killed you when it overlays the score. Perhaps a black background on that popup?

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, I'll try to cap a screen if I remember.

Personally I vastly prefer the current menu art to the above mockup. Nex is an industrial feeling game, and the menu has an industrial feel. That is perfect.

I think there are two things that could be easily improved:

1 - like Cheapalert(leillei) said - the weapon positioning makes them feel kinda wimpy, and not beefy. That is a personal preference of mine, I really have always loved the way UT presented their veiw of the v_weps.

2 - The movement. It still feels very quake 1 to me, like kinda swimmy? If the movement were crisper, ala q2, q3, maybe that would help.

Either way, Nexuiz is VERY succesful to this point, and in the developer's position, I'd be leery of messing with the formula tooooo much

ai wrote:

[-z-] wrote: Yeah, I really hate that when you click in the server browser just once you join, especially if it's not finished refreshing and you see the server you want to join and click but misses and joins another server. That's really annoying. Has happened to me many times, heh some just don't have the patience to wait till it's finished

Haha, this happens to me about once in a day , neither do I have enough patience

Sounds for jumping. Every FPS I have played have had some type of sound when you jump. Just one off the top of my head. Keep up the great work.

gregf wrote:Sounds for jumping. Every FPS I have played have had some type of sound when you jump. Just one off the top of my head. Keep up the great work.

Because there is a loud sound when landing I think this is overkill. But that's just me.

Can someone find Kaz's menu concept? That was a very sexy menu.
It was on the old forum

There were a lot of sexy mockups made at the old forum; unfortunately, most of them required menu code rewrites to be worth anything.

morfar wrote:

gregf wrote:Sounds for jumping. Every FPS I have played have had some type of sound when you jump. Just one off the top of my head. Keep up the great work.

Because there is a loud sound when landing I think this is overkill. But that's just me.

No i agree the landing sound is much better then a jump sound.
Check this video and what it says about jumping: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4kp_CkH5AKM

morfar wrote:Can someone find Kaz's menu concept? That was a very sexy menu.
It was on the old forum

The OLD FORUM!!!! waaaa
i so miss theminimalisticthread and the other useless junk in the off-topic forum...

Jump sound?? Why on earth do you want such a disgusting thing??? This reminds me It's these "little" differences that make Nexuiz so great...

+ Widescreen anyone?

+ And could there be an alternative to the menu? I believe Legends had an option to choose between 3 different menu layouts and colors.

I think there should be a jump sound, but not a very assuming one (like a shallow grunt). Like in splinter cell

a "jump sound"... that makes almost as much sense as the "woosh" sound for flying! XD

I have just a few things:

Server list should be setup better. I'm talking like, buttons that narrow down your searches (i.e. don't display empty/full servers button) and an IP join button (Though you can just join via the terminal ) possibly something that shows the status of the server (i.e. who's on server specs, server info etc. etc.).

Sounds are kinda funky, I'm not saying they are bad, but a few things could be improved on. Music possibly, but the weapon sounds are okay.

Then one last thing, most people do not realize this but Nexuiz could use a HEADSHOT feature.

shade11 wrote:Then one last thing, most people do not realize this but Nexuiz could use a HEADSHOT feature.

It has been tried.. it was lame and didnt fit the play style of nexuiz.

headhsots are lame, leave them in UT and leave them there for good.

If I liked headshots I'd play UT, no Nexuiz

objection: I think headshots are awsome! only if you have a really masculine announcer say HEAD_SHOT though. In all seriousness, there are alot more important things, but any cool addition to gameplay will make nexuiz even better.

Wait a minute: doesnt nexuiz have headshots? what then is the guy who says "Awsome- did yoda show you that?"

torus wrote:objection: I think headshots are awsome! only if you have a really masculine announcer say HEAD_SHOT though. In all seriousness, there are alot more important things, but any cool addition to gameplay will make nexuiz even better.

Wait a minute: doesnt nexuiz have headshots? what then is the guy who says "Awsome- did yoda show you that?"

I agree that headshots are fun, but the devs seem to disagree so we probably won't see them included any time soon.

The Yoda line is whenever you pull off a Nex shot while in air.

The yoda is if you hit someone with a nex, and both you and him are in air. Or you shoot an invicible player in mistagib.

I'd put in my vote for improved weapon models (particularly the RL, and particularly from the first-person view). At the moment they look amateurish and rather outdated.

Secondly, a revamp of the game menu system would be great.

Don't change too much though (:

Nexuiz needs SOMETHING, but i cant say WHAT it needs to be popular.

new movement, yes esteel, better movement & netcode so its not so damn laggy at 60-100ms.

this topic has grown very big. Please, if you suggest something USE THE DAMN LIST FORMAT!!!

Refined list:

* work on maps (mainly optimization)
* better netcode
* positionable weapons (left, center, right)
* sex appeal???
* this: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1295519
* less boxy maps
* exciting new weapons like Half Life 2's gravity gun
* spark effect with decals
* language packs
* better menu/different menu themes
* improved server browser
* better models

I don't have a refined list yet. I'll think more about it and do that another time. I just wanted to add to the "better models" suggestion.

If any of the models are redone, I would suggest doing the player models first. For some reason, that was one of the first things that I noticed about Nexuiz, that the player models looked very amateurish compared to the rest of the game. No offense to whoever modeled them :-/

so, your post would look like this for example, dokujisan:

Dokujisan wrote:* work on maps (mainly optimization)
* better netcode
* positionable weapons (left, center, right)
* sex appeal???
* this: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1295519
* less boxy maps
* exciting new weapons like Half Life 2's gravity gun
* spark effect with decals
* language packs
* better menu/different menu themes
* improved server browser
* better models


If any of the models are redone, I would suggest doing the player models first. For some reason, that was one of the first things that I noticed about Nexuiz, that the player models looked very amateurish compared to the rest of the game. No offense to whoever modeled them :-/

I do agree with you though, at least get better textures for them, they are pretty ugly...

My list:

1. CSQC
2. New Character Models & Support for more common model formats
3. New Menu
4. More visible voting system & Kick-Bans
5. improved sound effects (esp. sounds used for more than one event)
6. Shell casings enabled by default
7. A more useful Crylink

also, read here before posting:
http://www.alientrap.org/devwiki/index. ... exuiz.Todo

Here is a more refined list of my thoughts:

*Improved Server Browser
*Better Mac Support
*Installation guides and packages for certain Linux systems, (i.e. Arch, Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian.)
*An Install file for Nexuiz on Windows and Apple, as well as .rpm/.deb/.package installers.