Have you guys considered using a bittorrent tracker like demonoid to distribute Nexuiz? Demonoid has a relatively freindly community, though large, and Nex could get alot of exposure. Of course, there are moral implications with the pirating and all (not that I use demonoid of course )

Also, torrents are somewhat self-perpetuating, which would save bandwidth.
I would be willing to seed such a torrent for a while if necessary.

Sure, torrents are a great thing.
BUT if one wanted to distribute Nexuiz via Bittorrent, sides like Demonoid, which are invite only, are the wrong choice, they could never be a official download source. Even public torrent sides are a bad choice, becaus using one of them for distribution doesnt look very professional.
Furthermore such sources have no "credebility", atleast I would never download any open source software from a torrent side, because the evil hackerz could have modified it to steel my beryls and emeralds from my desktop .
That doesnt mean a torrent download is not trust worthy in general, when it is linked from the official homepage, it is a complete different thing.
But for that u would need ur own tracker or rely on one of the open and free to use ones.
Than still one has to make sure that it is seeded well 24/7 and i mean *really* well, because a torrent that is seeded bad or not at all, would create the impression, that there is not much interrest in this game.

EDIT:

OK, after rereading i found my post sounds a bit negative. Dont get me wrong, I would for sure help seeding, (but not 24/7, as i must play and not only seed it )

Some Nexuiz version have been uploaded to trackers already. But not the latest afaik.
You can upload a torrent and seed yourself. No need for an official Alientrap member to do that.

I think I will (I need to get my abysmal ratio up anyway).
By the way, Demonoid is not a private tracker, even though it seems that way. Demonoid has open invitations every friday, and other times too, and people can download without being a member as long as they dont exceed 3 a week.
Also, people are more likely to download stuff from a tracker like demon which is tightly qualitycontrolled (torrents get deleted if they are reported very quickly) than a public one, where viruses are rampant.

Question: would it be ok to upload only the windows/mac/linux parts separatley, or should it be kept together?

morfar wrote:Some Nexuiz version have been uploaded to trackers already. But not the latest afaik.

I stumbled upon a torrent for 2.2.3 a few days ago: http://www.gameupdates.org/details.php?id=851

It's kinda weird though, because everthing is unpacked, so the symlinks in the mac folders are likely to be broken (they are probably replaced by copies of the actual files, but i haven't checked that...). But at least the tracker seems to be quite nice, since it seems to serve only legal files, which is imho quite rare (except for a few linux trackers, but Nexuiz isn't quite "on topic" there).

@Torus: I would recommend to keep the zip as it is. All binaries in total are just 25MB, that's not really worth the effort imho.

http://www.meganova.org/details/473438.html

seeding with 350kb/s come along whoever wants too

We need these torrents put onto the main website.

That might be difficult, as torrents come and go/ are deleted periodically from trackers. I wasnt thinking that BT would be used to DL faster (although this is a though), but more importantly to get exposure where there is none.

[EDIT] ZOMG Im an ALIEN

I actually run a reputable open source torrent tracker (*gasp*), http://ostorr.org, and as documented in this thread a member of the forums here requested I track Nexuiz. As mentioned in the topic, the 2.2.3 torrent can be found here and is running reasonably well. I monitor releases myself so everything for the torrent is handled off site.

Draicone wrote:I actually run a reputable open source torrent tracker (*gasp*), http://ostorr.org, and as documented in this thread a member of the forums here requested I track Nexuiz. As mentioned in the topic, the 2.2.3 torrent can be found here and is running reasonably well. I monitor releases myself so everything for the torrent is handled off site.

exelent.

ifaik the GPLv2 does not allow programs (that are under the gplv2) to be distrubuted via torrent, it is only in GPLv3 that that is "leagal"..
i saw a video where RMS talked bout the gpl...

Gego wrote:ifaik the GPLv2 does not allow programs (that are under the gplv2) to be distrubuted via torrent, it is only in GPLv3 that that is "leagal"..

GPL doesn't restrict in which way a the content is distributed. It would be really stupid if it would.

Gego wrote:ifaik the GPLv2 does not allow programs (that are under the gplv2) to be distrubuted via torrent, it is only in GPLv3 that that is "leagal"..
i saw a video where RMS talked bout the gpl...

What would be illegal in distributing GPL software over a free protocol supported by free clients?

Heh yea. And then I suppose downloading a debian iso via ftp is legal, but using the official torrents are not

dIM wrote:Than still one has to make sure that it is seeded well 24/7 and i mean *really* well, because a torrent that is seeded bad or not at all, would create the impression, that there is not much interrest in this game.

I never understood why the servers that host standard http downloads can't also be torrent seeders. It's as if there's some implicit rule that you can either complete your download quickly, or you can share your bandwidth with the community, but not both. I understand that if nexuiz is relying on the mirrors of sites such as sourceforge, then the servers and their means of distribution aren't configurable by Alientrap. What's everyone else's excuse?

Gego wrote:ifaik the GPLv2 does not allow programs (that are under the gplv2) to be distrubuted via torrent, it is only in GPLv3 that that is "leagal"..
i saw a video where RMS talked bout the gpl...

To echo the replies above me:

Incorrect. The GPL only restricts the content of distribution, in that you must only redistribute if you include or are willing to provide the source code. The manner in which the distribution takes place is mostly irrelevant, although different means such as physical CDs and web servers are mentioned in the license. The only thing I can think of is that it's possible that the license specifically allows one to distribute binaries on a CD, and then make the source available from a web server. In that case, a strict reading may exclude torrents as a means of distribution, but since nexuiz comes packaged with the source it's not an issue.

Hell, even if it was, I doubt there's anyone out there willing to make a case out of it. That kind of thing isn't anywhere near as controversial as binary kernel modules.

Actually... binary-only torrents may be slightly problematic: the ones who download also upload, thus everyone who completes the download has the right to ask EVERYONE ELSE for the source.

But if it is a free project, even this is not a problem - it is a problem in the sense that if someone distributes GPL licensed stuff and there is no source on the net, everyone may be violating the GPL, not just the initial seeder.

That is true, although it relies on the same logic the RIAA uses to hit individual citizens with $250,000 statutory damages - that personal p2p sharing constitutes legal distribution when in reality it is mostly used just for download. That's kind of a grey area.