http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... 480-hi.avi (DivX, high quality, 97MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... 80-med.avi (DivX, medium quality, 60MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... 240-lo.avi (DivX, low quality, 23MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... -mpeg2.mpg (MPEG-2, medium quality, 64MB)
http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... -mpeg1.mpg (MPEG-1, low quality, 39MB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPBT8948BA (YouTube, 11MB, for those who don't have a DivX player but have Flash, extra low quality)
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid= ... 0157599702 (Google video, 28MB, Flash based too but allows AVI download, DivX, low quality)

To play the DivX AVIs, use one of:

VLC: http://www.videolan.org/
MPlayer: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
ffdshow: http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/

The MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video should play without additional software.

And yes, there is a decoding error somewhere. Just ignore it... I borrowed the notebook where I made it, I can't edit it any more. And yes, it does reek of a certain movie editing application... it's the one I ended up with after trying about 10 other free (as in beer) apps that either crash all the time (Cinelerra, take this), are awfully slow (Cinelerra, take this too!), first convert the input data to their own format and losing quite much quality while doing that (iMovie and anything else there seems to be for OS X, take this), or for some reason don't like the input data, no matter to what I encode it (Avid, take this).

If anyone can recommend a good video editing app that runs on Linux, post it here.

Basically, the video should show quite obviously that one has to get all of the keys or meet with team mates who have the others... but the main focus is behavior while playing, like, following the RUN HERE sign, always going to where action is, and not giving up if you lost a key, you can still get it back (that was an interesting round on MMQ3).

Special thanks to XENO THE BLIND for sending in his demo file, BTW!

NOTE: made a new encode since I got Windows Media Encoder work the way I want. Now the files have generally higher quality; the medium one is at the same level as the previously "high" one, though, but a bit smaller. Also, the new youtube link no longer contains "w8rez"

divVerent wrote:
If anyone can recommend a good video editing app that runs on Linux, post it here.

Video editing on Linux is not a satisfiable matter.

You can use mainactor by mainconcept. There are packets for Suse and Ubuntu. You can get a demo here: http://www.mainactor.de/
But the full version costs 199 EUR iirc. If you already have a key for the windows version, you can use the key for linux, too.
Nonetheless it is the best piece of video-editing-software you can get for linux at this time.

Another program is kdenlive. http://kdenlive.org/
It is in alpha or beta stadium, but for simple projects quite usable. It should not take a long time until the next version (0.5) will be released. You should have your radar on this one. I think in some time this will be the #1 editing software on linux.

As i said, it is not satisfiable.

BTW, why does the youtube link contain "w8rez"?

Oh, and I actually have tried kdenlive... it was in the crashing category. But, it's early beta...

I just found out why Windows Movie Maker didn't accept the profile - I checked "same as input" for the resolution. When I explicitly specify 640x480 in that box, it works. So today, I think I'll try to re-encode that video in a better quality at 80MB. The small version however should not need a re-encoding...

An explanation for the different colors that a "Key Carrier" can have would have been good imo.

first convert the input data to their own format and losing quite much quality while doing that (iMovie and anything else there seems to be for OS X, take this)

What was the input data?

DP captures to I420 AVI, but as I don't have the hard drive space for all that, I converted it to MPEG-4/PCM AVI, where the MPEG-4 has a constant quantizer of 2.

I've done a lot of major editing with Cinelerra without and trouble of it crashing or being exceptionally slow. And even when it does occasionally crash, it's very good about keeping autosaves recent. So I dunno.

Depends on the system

At home - 1GB RAM, Athlon 64 3700+, Ubuntu x86_64 - it crashes when trying to import video files. I suppose this Ubuntu build is just a bad one, but I can't get it compiled from source either... actually, when trying to compile, I get "relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC" but as far as I see, the gcc lines do specify -fPIC - maybe some didn't. When I instead try to compile with --disable-shared --enable-static, I get a nice statically built cinelerra binary - which then doesn't find its GUI theme because it's build as a static library too and installed to IIRC /usr/local/share/lib/cinelerra/suv.a.

At university - 2GB RAM, Pentium D 2.8GHz Dualcore, Fedora Core 6 x86_64 - it works, but is awfully slow (import one AVI, play it back, and it plays at about 4fps without even having transitions).

But as this Fedora package is a 64bit one, that should mean someone has fixed the build script bug in cinelerra... so maybe it's possible to take the patch from the Fedora RPM and compile it with that on Ubuntu.

New version has been uploaded. Now with the first scene being a bit longer, black background instead of blue one, and better encode.

Also added MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 encodes for Windows and OS X without extra codec/player software.

I've got an Athlon XP 2000+ with 1gb of RAM on Ubuntu x86... I'm assuming the trouble is probably in the 64-bit build? 32-bit runs fine (both Cinelerra and Cinelerra-CV).

I assume that too - and compiling would work on 32bit (the ld error message can happen on 64bit only, on 32bit the PIC isn't a requirement).

Also, that 64bit build is quite outdated, but there isn't a newer one.

Specifically, the crashing one is the Ubuntu 64 Edgy one from http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php, but I run Ubuntu 64 Feisty. It is dated from Jan 9, 2007. The 32bit builds on that site are much newer, but don't run on Ubuntu 64bit.

Well done, the video is good, very explicative, thanks for having donated your spare time guys. Often I have to explain the rules to the newbies in KH... not thats a problem of course, but cannot the rules be included somewhere, that one can read just writing "rules" in the console or something like that? Maybe this does exist yet, so in the case, tell me pls
Maybe you may decide to add just one thing in the explicative video, not strictly related to KH because it happens even in other game modes like CTF etc, but is important and people tend to ignore it...
When the server suggests that you you should change team, PRESS F5 (and do not care about your score, as many players seem to do and they fall into playing a bad, unequal game). It would be a good point to underscore the fact that frags almost don't count for the score, they are mostly strategic; of course this basic fact is implied in the video... but given that the targets are the "noobiest noobs" who think they would not succeed in grabbing the keys easily, while they can at least kill someone...

An OT tip: the map Minimaq or something like that, I mean the toy story style one (by far the most well designed and funny in the key hunt ones at the moment!) real time lights let the screen appear totally blank, maybe the luminance settings should be modified or something. (I am building a map and learning the gtk thing in my - few - spare time, I still dunno how many things work in the graphic engine, so forgive me to be not that precise.)

infowars wrote:An OT tip: the map Minimaq or something like that, I mean the toy story style one (by far the most well designed and funny in the key hunt ones at the moment!) real time lights let the screen appear totally blank, maybe the luminance settings should be modified or something. (I am building a map and learning the gtk thing in my - few - spare time, I still dunno how many things work in the graphic engine, so forgive me to be not that precise.)

I don't know what the realtime light effect is you mean, did it happen on the video too? I recorded the video at a gamma boost, maybe that's why. Also, in the capture scene, there was also a rocket explosion.

I don't know what the realtime light effect is you mean, did it happen on the video too? I recorded the video at a gamma boost, maybe that's why. Also, in the capture scene, there was also a rocket explosion.

No in the video it doesnt happen. I checked the exact term and is "realtime world lights", when one has that turned on, the map cannot be played because it turns on almost completely white, at least I noticed it myself and some people, asking how was that they were having this problem, confirmed I wasnt the only one experiencing the issue.

I think I fixed it now, but I have no idea why it was happening. The map was compiled using "_keeplights" so it could be scaled... but that kept the light entities in the .bsp and .ent file (that's what the option is for anyway). And this made the engine interpret the lights as realtime lights... so the map was lit twice.

Fixed by removing the light entities from the .ent file. Just uploading the fixed pk3, RBI will soon run that one. Everyone affected by that problem please delete his minimanq3-nex.pk3 from dlcache, I won't force the download for everyone as it only affects users of realtime world lights.

Also, will talk to LordHavoc - maybe 2.3 will solve this by not loading light entities from the map as realtime lights, but only from .rtlights files.

To save download time, you can as well install http://hector.rbi.informatik.uni-frankf ... ghtfix.pk3 and your minimanq3-nex.pk3 into your data directory.

divVerent wrote:I think I fixed it now [...] the map was lit twice.

Well you were amazingly fast, thanks!

Yes, only thing I don't know is why the fix is needed... it may actually be a problem in the engine. But I found no other map majorly affected, so for now it's fixed by this.

KH should show you how many keys you are carrying.

Sometimes in a close fight it can be hard to tell if you picked up 1 or 2 keys.

Impossible without CSQC - note that the key indicator uses an otherwise impossible combination of bits (it gets sent as "carrying red flag | carrying blue flag"). But yes, would be nice... but it isn't really relevant.

Two little sequences :
- http://perso.orange.fr/ronan13/nex/capt ... 1remix.avi
3 keys carriers from the same team meet at the same place, unfortunately it was not mine...

- http://perso.orange.fr/ronan13/nex/capt ... recity.avi
I have captured the 2 others keys, in midair...

Original demos can be found here.

Well yeah it would be nice to know how many keys you have but at least you know how many teams there are and you can see the icons for the keys/carriers..

Hey, this is sorta on topic, since those are DivX encoded files.

I was playing around with the DivX embedded web player yesterday. As far as I know, there isn't a linux version of the DivX Web player. I was curious what happens when you view the following page using Linux (I'm at work at the moment so I can test it). Will it play with mplayer or something similar?

http://www.axkickboxing.com/video/divx_test.html

No video? Get the DivX Web Player for Windows or Mac

with windows and Mac being links..

crap


I wonder if the DivX people are working on a Linux version of the web player *crosses fingers*. Just a few months ago, they released an update to the DivX codec for Linux.

Hmm, I'm gonna email them and ask.

divVerent and Xeno

(I just watched the video a few minutes ago)

Congratulations on creating a great video. This is EXACTLY what I was suggesting before with the video tutorial idea. Well, except I was considering the idea of using a voice-over, but I think your use of the overlaying text is a good idea (you started using overlaying text later on in the video).

The only criticism I'd give is that some of the tips are a little lacking in details...things like:

"good players know when to attack and when to run" or something like that. I can't remember exactly how it was written. That could be re-written to say something like

"Attack when ___________"
"Run when ___________"

and so on.

I am very excited to see this video though. I think it is a great start that will hopefully lead to other videos covering the basics of Nexuiz. That will help a lot of players.

Dokujisan wrote:I wonder if the DivX people are working on a Linux version of the web player *crosses fingers*. Just a few months ago, they released an update to the DivX codec for Linux.

Who cares about divx player? It would probably be just another non-free plugin that only works on 32bit systems and crashes firefox whenever it can
There's an mplayer plugin that works quite well for ANY embedded video including streams like mms://... (it also enables you to save those )):

ahh, that's what I was wondering.

So that video played okay using the mplayer plugin?

Yes, but you can also just download it and watch it using standalone mplayer, or standalone VLC, or use Flash and watch the Youtube version... many choices.

Dokujisan wrote:Congratulations on creating a great video. This is EXACTLY what I was suggesting before with the video tutorial idea. Well, except I was considering the idea of using a voice-over, but I think your use of the overlaying text is a good idea (you started using overlaying text later on in the video).

Well, yes, voice over for a commentary would be nice... especially the long uncut capture video on minimanq3 could have used a commentary voice... but the video editing tool I used isn't really made for that (it's Windows Movie Maker, nothing professional), and my German accent is too strong for commenting a video in English.

BTW, a cool idea could be making the anti-video, with posed scenes of "characters" like:

• Trevor the Turrent
• Peter-Walther the Pickup Waster
• Ben-Christopher the Bad Camper
• Kamikaze Kenny
• Charles-Paul the Confused Player
• Frank the Furious Fragger
• Steve Matthew the Suicidal Maniac
• Dave the Dopey Defender
• Oscar the Obstruction
• Alex Stricker the Arrogant Showoff
• Chong Hwang Ning the Clueless Homicidal Neanderthal
• Mark Ronster the Marathon Runner
• Barney Satuck the Bloodthirsty Snob
• Olaf-Caesar Andersson the Obsessive-Compulsive Attacker
• Siegfried Ox-Clampier the Semi-Oblivious Camper