The Nexuiz North American community needs some help.

I would like to throw out a request that we as a community try to bring more people that we play against on the servers onto this forum to interact. Ultimately, I would like to see more people get involved in starting new clans, joining the ladders and establishing tournaments for north america. I've seen an increase in the number of quality US/Canadian players in the past few months and I think if that is nurtured properly, then it will grow rather than fizzle.

Mr Carlyle is an example of a very skilled player (one of the top north america players for Nexuiz) who only recently posted on this forum for the first time (to my knowledge). I regularly see players on the north american servers that are also very skilled, but they aren't in a clan and don't participate in tournaments (because there are none for north america) and they don't post on this forum.

We need more NA servers.

The Fusion CTF server seems to be filling a role as a good CTF server for North America, for now. It's been pretty busy for the couple of weeks, and the numbers keep increasing. I think, in this case, "if you build it, they will come" really applies....or rather, they will stick around. The number of players on Fusion seem to be increasing in a short amount of time. The server has been full a lot over the past few days.

It would be wonderful to see another 1 or 2 servers pop up to make room for more regulars. We already have a solid generic DM server, a couple of 1v1 servers (GA and NY). I would like to see another CTF (no grapple) server like Fusion, but perhaps with a different mix of maps (the ones that I don't want on the Fusion server...like Mentalspace and Greatwall). I would also like to see a grapple CTF server.

I was speaking wtih a player named "Breathe" yesterday who said that he may be interested in starting a server out of Oregon. He has a colocated server on a DS1 line at an ISP that his friend owns. To my knowledge, Breathe doesn't post on this forum. Maybe we can help him get that server running.

I plan to move the Fusion server to a better hosting provider (SoftLayer) over the next few months. My current webhost kinda sucks in the network department.

If you have any suggestions for boosting or nurturing the north american nexuiz scene, post your thoughts here.

Mrrr.... Chryyz has been telling friends about Nexuiz he has. North American friends. And Chryyz' North American friends tells their friends, which then tell their friends....

In conclusion... I've gotten 3-5 people to play so far, and I don't hesitate to tell people ^.^

Fusion = <3

~Chryyz

Awesome. That's what I'm talking about.

If we get enough people involved, then we can organize some tournaments for North America..like 1v1, 2v2, clan_vs_clan, etc.

One key is, we have to get them to come to the forum. That way, they can be notified of upcoming tournaments.

I play about every night, and spread the word as much as I can. Along with that, I am always ready to help newer players learn how to play better, so they will spread the word, and the game will grow. We need to find more people who have alot of bandwidth to run more servers on this side of the pond.

every time I've given the game to a friend they've called me up asking how to play it. One guy who is extremely whiney wouldn't stop bitching about how it didn't work, when he only extracted nexuiz.exe from the zip. I think making an installer for windows would get us so many more players. Actually, wait, that would bring us not so many good players, nevermind... keep it the way it is...

I completely agree with the Windows setup suggestion. I think it's a good thing to reduce barriers to entry. Some people out there might not know what the hell a zip file is, but they make a really good gamer.

I also still think it's a great idea to work on the tutorial videos. I would like to work on that project. I think that project could improve the skillset of many new Nexuiz players.

I'd put up a windows installer if I had a place(s) to host the beast.

Dave wrote:I'd put up a windows installer if I had a place(s) to host the beast.

I'll host it. or you wcould use download.com or whatever

And I'd make a Windows installer in the official build script if there were a free (so no InstallShield) way to create one from Linux (where all builds are made).

Would this help?

http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Features

"The NSIS compiler can be compiled for POSIX platforms like Linux and *BSD. Generated installer will still run on Windows only, but this way they can be generated without Windows or WINE."

I was just about to suggest NSIS for dedicated Windows installlers. It's sad that 'doze users have to receive such special treatment, but it's unfortunately something that has to be considered in order to increase Nex's popularity.

I may not post around these parts very much, I can safely announce that I am doing my part to bring more people to Nex! Hopefully everyone does the same and we can build a strong playerbase in North America. =]

[TSA] Psychiccyberfreak wrote:every time I've given the game to a friend they've called me up asking how to play it. One guy who is extremely whiney wouldn't stop bitching about how it didn't work, when he only extracted nexuiz.exe from the zip. I think making an installer for windows would get us so many more players. Actually, wait, that would bring us not so many good players, nevermind... keep it the way it is...

I'll have to agree with Psychiccyberfreak, I can't imagine anything good coming from users who need an installer to setup Nexuiz.

[Read his post for reference]

Currently, the number of North American Nexuiz players is self - multiplying, there isn't much need to intervene - that is, unless we want actually to scrape [idiots] from the bottom of the barrel.
Or we could get tZork to make an installer using VB6...

It's a bad assumption that someone who isn't good with computers would be a bad gamer. Just look at Kojn. I mean that dude can barely tie his own shoe laces, let alone setup a windows shortcut.



Seriously though, that is a bad assumption. I mean, we all had to start somewhere. No reason to have a sense of elitism in the Nexuiz Community. (There's already plenty of that in the open source community as it is)

On the numbers of north american players...I think there have already seen plenty of north american players in the past, but they did not stick around. I think there are multiple reasons for this.

1. There were few north american servers
2. They didn't see many other north american players
3. They would play on european servers and die from lag.
4. The forum is busy with mainly european players

So basically they have arrived, but there was nothing to make them stick. So I think it's important to setup a few solid servers (Fusion being one of them, but we need more) and then we need to invite them to the forum to get more involved in the conversations. Hopefully, this will keep them around and they will form clans and enter in tournaments, etc.

That's the idea.

As one of the few NE players, I can say that the only reason I'm sticking around this game is because of the game itself. I dont care if the servers are bad or who the players are (trust me after a while you find a way to overcome all that), but the game itself is great. I think we can find plenty of people who share that mindset and not have to worry about making the installation process top notch. But we can all agree that some new servers on our side of the world would be a good idea.

I've finished my installer. Waiting to hear back from tChr, so I can host it somewhere (260 MB)

I kept playing Nexuiz for the opposite reason, Cream.
I was referring to Psychiccyberfreak's example:

[TSA] Psychiccyberfreak wrote:... One guy who is extremely whiney wouldn't stop bitching about how it didn't work, when he only extracted nexuiz.exe from the zip. I think making an installer for windows would get us so many more players. Actually, wait, that would bring us not so many good players, nevermind... keep it the way it is...

As for your installer, can you post sources of it?

And as for NSIS... that installer is frowned upon among Windows users because it appears much different from "normal" installers... like, a log window, it basically looks more like a self extractor than like an installer... is there maybe a command line way to make a MSI, and could anyone provide sources for it?

Well he posted his nsis script there: http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=1853
Ahh windows users.. always complaining

Cream wrote:As one of the few NE players, I can say that the only reason I'm sticking around this game is because of the game itself. I dont care if the servers are bad or who the players are

I don't follow your logic.

I think when playing Nexuiz online, the quality of the game is strongly influenced (if not defined by) the quality of the servers and the number and quality of available players.

It doesn't matter how great the game concept is if the servers are crap and there aren't other players to play against.

Are you talking about playing campaign mode?

i've been playing it every night... i have an email out to the developer to see how we can work together. i'm hoping to get a West Coast TDM server up soon.

pxlpshr wrote:i've been playing it every night... i have an email out to the developer to see how we can work together. i'm hoping to get a West Coast TDM server up soon.

what do you need the attention of a dev for? most of your questions could be helped in this forum. and the rest ... the devs will see in here too, cause they run this forum.

Or did I do something wrong, while not asking the devs before setting up my servers ?

I have presented the idea of a Nexuiz demonstration at QuakeCon several times to the Nexuiz leaders/creators (lordhavoc, verm, etc). I think it might be a good way to attract more North American players. I might be going to qcon this year, but I'm not 100% sure yet. SyncError (id software employee who's one of the people organizing quakecon) would not be opposed to the idea, I'm sure, and would most probably be able to schedule us a little time. But, again, it needs a dedicated individual who happens to be going to the convention. Think on it tho

Well being at quakecon would be very cool! Sadly i'll not be going to be there.. But who ever will go, its quite easy Strahlemann and i were on german TV for Nexuiz 1.5 and it was total fun! I'm sure if anyone would want to do this it would be equally fun and you will be glad you did it afterwards
Problem is just who would want to go and who would organize it. And make sure someone joins you to film this

esteel wrote:Strahlemann and i were on german TV for Nexuiz 1.5

I'd love to see that clip

http://www.forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=647
http://user.uni-frankfurt.de/~jsiegl/nexuiz_giga.avi

For some reason I'm only getting the audio, I'll mess with it tomorrow. Thanks

tChr wrote:http://www.forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=647
http://user.uni-frankfurt.de/~jsiegl/nexuiz_giga.avi

OH NOES, do not show them.. some might start to think i'm a real person and not a forum addon

ZyanKLee wrote:

pxlpshr wrote:i've been playing it every night... i have an email out to the developer to see how we can work together. i'm hoping to get a West Coast TDM server up soon.

what do you need the attention of a dev for? most of your questions could be helped in this forum. and the rest ... the devs will see in here too, cause they run this forum.

Or did I do something wrong, while not asking the devs before setting up my servers ?

to integrate some technology into the game so you can do pickup games, clan management, scrimmages, and tournaments.

pxlpshr wrote:

ZyanKLee wrote:

pxlpshr wrote:i've been playing it every night... i have an email out to the developer to see how we can work together. i'm hoping to get a West Coast TDM server up soon.

what do you need the attention of a dev for? most of your questions could be helped in this forum. and the rest ... the devs will see in here too, cause they run this forum.

Or did I do something wrong, while not asking the devs before setting up my servers ?

to integrate some technology into the game so you can do pickup games, clan management, scrimmages, and tournaments.

sounds nice