Here's some video footage of the game in action.

http://www.stingygaming.com/game.asp?ID_GAM=NXZ

The video is a bit small but it look nice. A simple download would be good to have

How ironic, a recording of free software in a proprietary format.

@a-thing > you seem to be really sticked with this idea of full-gpl everything...

in this case, a non-GPL format (aka what you are calling "proprietary") doesn't mean that it isn't free.
Most of proprietary formats does provide a free player, so where's the matter ?

I'm doing a nexuiz video... and doing everything with GPL solutions would be really impossible for me. My working tools are not GPL. I bought them, but they really aren't GPL.
And after ? should I stop because of that ???

in this case, a non-GPL format (aka what you are calling "proprietary") doesn't mean that it isn't free.
Most of proprietary formats does provide a free player, so where's the matter ?

That it's illegal to distribute players that support this format without permission of the patent holders. mplayer and VLC for example are illegal in the US just because of the patents.

i'm using final cut to make videos. I bought a license, and i am allowed to export H264 files for example. And to distribute them. And there are free (and legal) players that allow you to read those files.

Is it illegal for me to distribute H264 videos ???

obi_wan wrote:i'm using final cut to make videos. I bought a license, and i am allowed to export H264 files for example. And to distribute them. And there are free (and legal) players that allow you to read those files.
Is it illegal for me to distribute H264 videos ???

no but i guess that was your point.. thanks for backing me up here btw...

h264...as long as obi Gets the quality correct, your in for a ...and i say..AMAZINGLY BETTER thne DivX/XviD quality moviel...at the same/ LESS size then one of them movies,


THe quality in H264/x264 is just...at the moment, Unsurpassable, for same file size.

k0jak wrote:THe quality in H264/x264 is just...at the moment, Unsurpassable, for same file size.

I'd say Theora is at the same level.

Anyway, which are the free and legal players for H.264? Or is that codec not patented?

I'll take a further look at this theora codec, found that i will make some tests.
But it seems that the most used players for reading theora files are VLC and mPlayer... and you say they are illegal
(how bizarre, if they were so illegal, why would they always exist.... ?)

But i really want you to explain me what could be legal from your point of view ?
Another thing i don't understand... : if patent holders don't allow anybody to provide a free player for their codec, how can this codec become known and be used by people ???

Anyway, which are the free and legal players for H.264? Or is that codec not patented?

I think quicktime should be a legal software...

I suppose with free divVerent means free as in freedom -> source code available. Most of those free players are developed in countries where it is legal to develop them but stricly speaking it would be illegal to do the same in the US (or most other contries) because of those patents. VLC is developed in france as far as i know.

Free players are hard to sue as i suppose companies would loose more money then they get for doing so, the bad publicity of this is also disliked as those things are mostly small projects being beating by a big company. So all in all its not worth the hassle but those players are illegal in many contries after all.

Most of those codec have good players and encoders available for no money for private use. This however does not make then free in the FSF sense. Many players are included somewhere.. Why do so many people use windows media player though it sucks?

Quicktime is legal but not free (as freedom) which this discussion was all about..

esteel wrote:I suppose with free divVerent means free as in freedom -> source code available.

- with free I mean you don't have to give money to get the player
- when i speak of available source code, i say GPL, not free (even if it is not really exact)
- there are GPL softwares that aren't free

I will export my video in theora format, so everybody will be happy

But the soundtrack will not be GPL... i'll make two versions of the video :

- one with a soundtrack created by a friend of mine, so completly legal but not GPL...
- another one with "Roots Bloody Roots" by Sepultura and Pavarotti as soundtrack.... totally illegal, but so exciting