Reflections on Starship?

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Should this be enabled in Nexuiz 2.4 on the map starship?

Yes (if r_water 1, of course)
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No, not even if r_water is 1
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**Y REFLECTION AHAHAHAHAHAH))
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I CAN HAS MIRORRZ. I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
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Mutually Inexclusive Polls Are Stupid
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Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:07 pm

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    Performance impact with moderate settings, 7600GT, on demo with me and 1 bot: 146fps average -> 71fps. With me and 15 bots: 120fps -> 37fps. This shot has less fps, as it was made with "ultimate" settings (just realtime world disabled).
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Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:12 pm

  • Would be nice, yes. I've seen the recent changes in DP and do like it. I'm guessing it's quite dependent on effects that are set. Is there a fallback? No reflections? Is that too big a difference?

    Edit: I'd set some refraction and reflection shimmering in there. You could actually reduce the detail on reflections too by rendering alternate frames or lowering res. I forget if DP can do that or not.
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Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:14 pm

  • If reflections are off, the map will look just like in 2.3.

    Edit: it can't alternate frames, nor would it look good (but you can lower the resolution). And I don't think refraction would fit on starship... I rather see these glass faces as perfectly straight, considering everything else in the map is strictly geometrical aligned.
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Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:22 pm

  • Yes, I think starship look better with reflexion, especially with others players models like on this screeshoot :

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    About performance, the de-recompiled starship in svn (without reflexion) is much faster (my fps increased by 50 % with an old ati card), so there is space to add reflexion.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:36 am

  • I'm for it. Shouldn't be much of an issue if it can be toggled. Stylistically it fits in without seeming gaudy.
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:47 am

  • I would also say yes, but only if it isn't much of an effort (apparently not, as it seems to be implemented already anyway). The reason why I say this is because starship is a bad performing map anyway (FPS wise) and I don't see it being played too often - not only for the FPS reason ;)
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  • Badly performing? Starship performs quite well for me with reflections disabled - especially after the recompile (with reflections off, it gained about 40% fps).
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:10 am

  • I like it but it looks unnatural atm beacuse i can see the stars. maby it looks bether without the sky under the ship or with lesser reflection.

    I voted yes , but lesser reflection
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:47 am

  • So you'd prefer the glass to be a full mirror, and not transparent?
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:49 am

  • no , but lesser mirror like , just a little but reflection
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:58 am

  • r_wateralpa 0 , I only saw dm_ruiner with the mirror reflecting

    but i like when its r_wateralpha 0 , on 1 it looks like moving sky
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  • @ Urbanshenkie, where the hell are you hosting your screenshots?! XD
    can't you just choose one? (imageshack.us, xs.to, photobucket.com)

    i say "reflections, yes please", but only if it doesn't affect the "semi-laggers", those who have a higher ping and older comps. but as i understand it, low.cfg will have reflections disabled, aight?
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:07 pm

  • I want to see a full mirror in that nexball map with the wall where onlythe ball can go trew , it has a nice ceiling
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:36 pm

  • mörf wrote:I like this room the best.
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    Yeah :P

    but exactly that may change, as it costs extra fps. Not sure.
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Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:53 pm

  • Cost of FPS ? Then disable reflections... Besides ... GPU's should get powerfull enough in the future ... Then again, i can't enable many effect on my pc ... I'm still waiting on my gpu :)
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