divVerent wrote:BTW, look who's ripped off my forum signature idea. I bet he'll rip off the automatic youtube uploads soon too.

Maybe if you got over yourself you'd realize I'm promoting Race in the North American Nexuiz scene. I credited you for the idea here and on IRC, I even asked if you wanted to sync EU and NA stats globally.

Anti-lag can't fix the 300 ping North Americans get to your server and you've clearly stated your opinion about sharing the software to promote this gametype.

With the recently popularity in the US and growing number of mappers for the gametype, you're letting your feelings and selfishness get in the way of it's success. Being no stranger to parsing logs and creating dynamic images, I took it upon myself to promote "your gametype" (sorry nexrun :-\) by reverse engineering your forum signature.

So yeah... maybe you should chill out and stop taking things so personally.

To keep the peace on the fourms, I herebly ask permission to unsticky this ugly flaimbait thread... Let it rot slowly away... please?

I think one of the main ideas is to keep divVerents server attractive to have a high influx of players and thus feedback to changes as well as bug/code testing. Actually the NN servers do not ping that bad for me though i prefer to play at other server. I"m not sure if there really is a risk that this addition will attract more players to the NN server then divs but i can see that his server is getting less and less players..
Thats really a very bad thing and i'm for all that keeps players to his server as we simply NEED such feedback and testing. As i said i'm not sure if the NN server really take players away from EU servers but we clearly need to get over that tension between the two of you. Maybe it would help if some of the 'usually croweded' servers add a line to the MOTD t also play on the few well knows dev servers to help finding bugs..

I think it's absurd to blame me / Nexuiz Ninjaz for stealing traffic from EU servers, especially on the Race servers where you can tell from the signatures the difference in groups of players (save GRISU who just wants to be a god on both ).

I'm losing traffic to nexican who's setup with 24 player slots which we know is far too many for most CTF maps and from the comments I've seen around the internet, with that + jetpack, it's been giving the wrong first impression of Nexuiz to new players.

This is absurd however to play the blame game when we should just continue working towards improving what we can and as esteel mentioned let more people know about the benefits of playing on the divVerent's and Nexuiz Ninjaz servers (though I know divVerent will contest this because I'm not a C god that knows how to debug with gdb). I still develop software for Nexuiz servers that I've been selectively sharing with other admins who give important feedback / help grow the community, including divVerent... who complained that my script was AJAX.

Getting my race server statistics image setup was a prove of concept in getting the statistics train started up again and because of what I learned from developing it I'm better suited to deliver statistics / logs to the team.

I'm not the one that says we can never work together, I've been trying to work together from the start. There seems to be some miscommunication and assumptions getting tossed around that hinder progress. I'd be happy to run SVN servers again to test the latest developments and get feedback from players but it needs to be explained what it is you want. I feel like a certain someone gets mad at me for not knowing what he wants when he never tells me. I'm just supposed to know.

C.Brutail wrote:To keep the peace on the fourms, I herebly ask permission to unsticky this ugly flaimbait thread... Let it rot slowly away... please?

+1

I'm all with esteel, there. You two should work together. You both seem to think that the other wants to get all the profit, but your final objectives are the same. Try to get over these bad impressions!


C. Brutail, I think the "flamebaiters" here are reasonable people who can stop it whenever they want. Give this some time to happen, maybe