Thanks to those people who sent in demo's so far (morfar, green, esteel)

they are just what i needed, i have alreasdy started work on the movie, im doing the basic synching first, then all of the effects once the synching is complete, im going to try get a irc mate to do the flash work for me,


please keep the demo's coming, i still need a lot more frags to work with people!

did you see the old quake 3 fortress demos, excellent stuff, i have a copy of 2 someplace if your interested.

one was mixed to the Tunak Tunak record by dahler mendhi.

What software are you using to edit and master your compilation movie?

I'd go with avid,.. but no budget for that righ tnow

Be sure the final thing is in a free format (Theora/Vorbis).

(See Wikipedia for why XviD won't work.)

Or even best.. mpeg, wich is an industry standard, supported everywhere, and developed by a joint comitte, free for use, and with open spec.

It's patented.

a thing wrote:It's patented.

mpeg patents and control belongs to the ISO, allthough parts and pieces that are owned by different companies, so I see whats your issue.

However that puts no restriction on the data itself, only on algorithms and procedures used to produce or render it.. The data can still be used however the author wishes, and licencedt as such.

I'm not saying not to let it be available under open source and free data formats, I'm all for that. However if you want it to be used in the real worl, also use real world formats.

tChr wrote:However that puts no restriction on the data itself, only on algorithms and procedures used to produce or render it.

Which means players are illegal without a patent license.

Of course, one could just release it in more than one format.

For recording the demos, is there a difference between playdemo/ply and recorddemo/rec? I thought I heard that the engine saves individual snapshots and sound samples into the demo file, but when I tried it I was able to adjust the graphical effects when playing it back. Do you need it done in a particular way for it to be of any use?

Workaphobia wrote:For recording the demos, is there a difference between playdemo/ply and recorddemo/rec?

ply and rec are aliases, the only difference between them and record/playdemo is that rec/ply are using Nexuiz/data/demos to store the files, not Nexuiz/data.

I thought I heard that the engine saves individual snapshots and sound samples into the demo file, but when I tried it I was able to adjust the graphical effects when playing it back. Do you need it done in a particular way for it to be of any use?

No, demos in darkplaces/nexuiz are basically a dump of all network traffic between the recording client and the server.

If you want to convert a demofile into a video you have play the demo and use cl_capturevideo (type cl_capturevideo in the console and press tab, that'll give you a list of options and what they are doing)

a thing wrote:

tChr wrote:However that puts no restriction on the data itself, only on algorithms and procedures used to produce or render it.

Which means players are illegal without a patent license.

Yeah.. But still if we want this to be used by anyone but ourselves.. like broadcasting or whatever, we dont have much of a choice.. Using one format doesnt stop us from also using another.

Edit: I'm too old and experienced to be an idealist about these things.. Idealism is for you young

Some useful demo stuff. You can use the number keypad to slowdown a demo (1-4), play at normal speed (5), play faster (6-9), pause demo (0), end the demo (.)
create a movie from what you see on the screen (return and +),
dis/enable the hud (-), make hud nice and back to your settings again (*) and you can en/disable thirdperson view (/).
freeview hides anything from the screen, crosshair, hud, messages on the top, middle and chat, weapon, scoreboard when dead, time and fps display
demoview almost the same but displays full hud, your normal crosshair, weapon and fov 90.
But for those two keys please remember to press the key twice to restore your own settings or you will have an empty screen after restart.. i was too lazy to make this better
(its best to write this into Nexuiz/data/autoexec.cfg)

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bind kp_end "slowmo 0.1"
bind kp_downarrow "slowmo 0.2"
bind kp_pgdn "slowmo 0.3"
bind kp_leftarrow "slowmo 0.5"
bind kp_5 "slowmo 1"
bind kp_rightarrow "slowmo 2"
bind kp_home "slowmo 3"
bind kp_uparrow "slowmo 5"
bind kp_pgup "slowmo 10"
bind kp_ins pausedemo
bind kp_del stopdemo
bind kp_enter capturevideo
bind kp_plus capturevideo
bind kp_minus freeview
bind kp_multiply demoview
bind kp_slash thirdperson

alias capturevideo "toggle cl_capturevideo"

alias +freeview "set cl_deathscoreboard_backup $cl_deathscoreboard ;cl_deathscoreboard 0;set con_chat_backup $con_chat ;con_chat 0;set con_notify_backup $con_notify ;con_notify 0;set crosshair_backup $crosshair ;crosshair 0;set r_drawviewmodel_backup $r_drawviewmodel ;r_drawviewmodel 0;set scr_centertime_backup $scr_centertime ;scr_centertime 0;set showfps_backup $showfps ;showfps 0;set shownetgraph_backup $shownetgraph ;shownetgraph 0;set showtime_backup $showtime ;showtime 0;set viewsize_backup $viewsize ;viewsize 120;alias freeview -freeview"
alias -freeview "cl_deathscoreboard $cl_deathscoreboard_backup ;con_chat $con_chat_backup ;con_notify $con_notify_backup ;crosshair $crosshair_backup ;r_drawviewmodel $r_drawviewmodel_backup ;scr_centertime $scr_centertime_backup ;showfps $showfps_backup ;shownetgraph $shownetgraph_backup ;showtime $showtime_backup ;viewsize $viewsize_backup ;alias freeview +freeview"
alias freeview +freeview

alias +demoview "+freeview;crosshair $crosshair_backup ;r_drawviewmodel 1;viewsize 100;set fov_backup $fov ;fov 90;alias demoview -demoview"
alias -demoview "-freeview;fov $fov_backup ;alias demoview +demoview"
alias demoview +demoview

alias thirdperson "toggle chase_active"

Gannin wrote:What software are you using to edit and master your compilation movie?

Adobe Premier.
Photoshop (get a mate to do the work)
Flash? (person i know can do this).

i have weird 'effects' editing technique which takes me long to do...i havent learnt after effects...yet.

a thing wrote:Be sure the final thing is in a free format (Theora/Vorbis).

(See Wikipedia for why XviD won't work.)

My work isnt just for the people..it is also for myself, it is a hobby, as i spoke to esteel i want to make each movie better, editing, music, filesize..effects....and quality...

i will probably make 1-3 different formats for you guys, but the main one will be using the h264/x264 codec (gives near lossless quality...way better then XviD or any codec to date.)

Have you considered using Blender as part of your mastering process?

Gannin wrote:Have you considered using Blender as part of your mastering process?

no what is this?


btw some bastards smashed my car in on the weekend..after it broke down not far from my town, so i had to leave it there, came back today, they had taken the speakers, and CD player..but i had taken the fascia out (bit you use to control CD player)...yet they still took it, smashed 2 of my windows...and a wing mirror..

Idiots. Where in the world do you live? Is your insurance going to cover it?

Blender is a 3D modeling and animation suite, though it can also do video editing and output its video in broadcast quality in a variety of formats. It's also free and open source.

http://www.blender.org

k0jak wrote:btw some bastards smashed my car in on the weekend..after it broke down not far from my town, so i had to leave it there, came back today, they had taken the speakers, and CD player..but i had taken the fascia out (bit you use to control CD player)...yet they still took it, smashed 2 of my windows...and a wing mirror..

Sorry to hear that.. that would so piss me off..

I wasnt actually too annoyed, since im going to get a new car anyway,

i live in the UK!

going to go look at a 2.5 V6 vectra tomorrow, its at an amazingly good price, looks nice...and with that engine...sure to get me around

anyhow, didnt work on movie for last day, but will continue tonight,

if you have any worthwhile demo's you can private message me, with a link, or put a link here to where i can download it, if your lucky enough to catch me on IRC, you can there also

Somebody making a movie, eh? Cant wait for the results...

Thanks to the people who have sent demo's at the moment.

Morfar
Green
Stryku
Workaphobia (think i got name wrong? )

the rest who i have forgot at the moment, not had any tiume this week (had a lot of stuff to do so im watching your demos tonight)


Please keep the demo's coming guys starting to get a few for me to watch, the more the merrier, and the more choice i have to choose from

I have 3 new demos. All from my ladder matches.
http://rapidshare.de/files/14940581/mor ... 7.zip.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/15332021/mor ... 2.zip.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/15355177/mor ... 2.zip.html

KadaverJack wrote:If you want to convert a demofile into a video you have play the demo and use cl_capturevideo (type cl_capturevideo in the console and press tab, that'll give you a list of options and what they are doing)

I try to convert a demo to a movie...

while playing a demo, I type :

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set cl_capturevideo 1

and the framerate falls down... so I think it works fine...
then I type :

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set cl_capturevideo 0

and it seems to work too...

but where are the files ? I can't find them... (running nexuiz v 1.5 on a powermac G5)

thx[/quote]

Well on windows they get dumped into the directory Nexuiz/data/video but i have no idea where they will be dumped on the mac. Either there or maybe in ~/.nexuiz/data/video aka in your own folder.. maybe those directory names with a . as first char are hidden as they are on unix systems..

exactly,

just type "open .nexuiz" in terminal to open the hidden folder

k0jak wrote:btw some bastards smashed my car in on the weekend..after it broke down not far from my town, so i had to leave it there, came back today, they had taken the speakers, and CD player..but i had taken the fascia out (bit you use to control CD player)...yet they still took it, smashed 2 of my windows...and a wing mirror..

It was mee




jk

bitch!

Back to the movie,

ive now done about 30 seconds of frags, with just plain editing, adding effects afterwards, names, extra pov boxes e.t.c.

i do need help on certain part of the song, it slows down considerably and im not sure what to do with it to be honest..

..esteel mind if i send you what i have on wendesday, perhaps you can give me an idea what i could put in for the slow bit?