Recorded on DCC 2.5.2 Minstagib server
1. Tracks players through walls
2. Mouse speed is always constant while aiming
3. > 90% accuracy

Demo: http://omploader.org/vMnQ5cA

Do we have a working aimbot for 2.5.2 out there?

Probably, like there was for 2.5.1, 2.5, 2.4.2, 2.4.1, 2.3 (did I miss some?) and will be for 2.5.3 and beyond

I'm npt totally sure. There were some very odds frags too, but imho his mouse movement is too slow to be an aimbot. Wallhack _might_ be, but his accuracy comes from the very slow mouse movement.

I'm pretty sure its not wallhack, its a smoothened aimbot. If it was wallhack he would have placed the crosshair on the corner of the building where opponents would come out. It's pretty obvious from his name this is what he is testing Whatmore I dont even think he was a human, his movement was pretty similar to how bots move around the maps.
@ C.Brutail: even with superlow sensitivity noone moves his mouse like this, it has perfectly constant speed all the time.

Without looking at the demo i can say i know theres at least 2 working aimbots I know of for 2.5.2. Fortunately the most advanced one i know of will never see a public game. I personally came across someone using a aimbot on DCC's minsta a few days ago. Not that it was any good, but still theres a/few bots out there it seems. The real question, i guess, is how many ppl are actuality cowardly enough top use these in public games.

On a side note "Tracks players through walls" - not really possible since the serer docent send the client the information needed to do so. unless the mapper made a real bad job for the map in question.

I suppose it isn't an aimbot, just a well conditioned CS (or sumfin) player. There isn't just one really amazing frag, the opponents are quite easy to hit (I know them all from my daily lunch-break-matches on DCC). My colleague at work plays quite similar, and everybody who ever saw a demo of Gehacktes (who regularly played Nexuiz some time ago and was quite a big number in the ESL amateur ladder for CS) knows that this is kind of aiming is nothing unhuman at all.

Doesn't look like he has a wallhack, but well -- Even if he does have an aimbot, he sucks anyway... And it uses a dumb smoothing technique which doesn't allow for high acceleration. (Like any normal human would be doing.)
But well, I know of the 2 aimbots tZork is talking about... I see no reason to worry.

Could someone who have, post that map as well. Hard to see if he cheats without being able to see the map. :p

ai wrote:Could someone who have, post that map as well. Hard to see if he cheats without being able to see the map. :p

http://samual.nexuizninjaz.com/curlstuff/fragcity-nex2.pk3 -- Iirc this is the correct map, let me know if it isn't. (I have like 8 fragcity maps in my dlcache)

Urmel wrote: and everybody who ever saw a demo of Gehacktes

ohhh Gehacktes i remember him from some pb partys i don't think he is using an aimbot.. maybe just for testing something

Yup, the map worked. To me it looked like he was aiming with the arrows for some reason instead of the mouse, hence why it was so smooth (kinda like those early games where you turned with the arrow keys and whatnot), the speed is constant. He just had good aim but not perfect.

Cheat? I don't know, I'm not entirely convinced.

Samual wrote:Doesn't look like he has a wallhack, but well -- Even if he does have an aimbot, he sucks anyway... And it uses a dumb smoothing technique which doesn't allow for high acceleration. (Like any normal human would be doing.)
But well, I know of the 2 aimbots tZork is talking about... I see no reason to worry.

Well I don't know, if he really uses an aimbot it gives him nearly 100% accuracy at least in DM matches + people think he plays fair. Doesn't sound like an aimbot that sucks to me.

The real question, i guess, is how many ppl are actuality cowardly enough top use these in public games.

Indeed, developing an aimbot for educational purposes is fine.. I don't even worry about those people testing their bots on public servers. As long as they keep their stuff for themselves and don't spread it..


P.S.: I Played CS myself for some years, and never saw someone aiming like this (as in constant mouse speed while aiming).

Samual wrote:Doesn't look like he has a wallhack, but well -- Even if he does have an aimbot, he sucks anyway... And it uses a dumb smoothing technique which doesn't allow for high acceleration. (Like any normal human would be doing.)
But well, I know of the 2 aimbots tZork is talking about... I see no reason to worry.

Well I don't know, if he really uses an aimbot it gives him nearly 100% accuracy at least in DM matches + people think he plays fair. Doesn't sound like an aimbot that sucks to me.

Well, the smoothing he used could be hindering the aimbot slightly, OR I suppose he could just have good aim and a slow mouse.

Without looking I guess gamepad user :) Halo kids are good. :P

It has nothing to do with low sensitivity, when you spot the enemy you always change your mouse speed because you want to be the first one who shoots, not just slowly at constant speed turning it torwards him.

morfar wrote:Without looking I guess gamepad user Halo kids are good.

What he said, or arrow keys. Doesn't mean cheat. I know morf played with gamepad sometime.

Judging by his movement, he's not using a mouse.

In light of that, I find some of his frags to be very suspicious... and weird. He missed a total of 5 shots I think.

I'll take a look when I get home tomorrow night, Im normally pretty good at spotting people who are botting

ai wrote:To me it looked like he was aiming with the arrows for some reason instead of the mouse, hence why it was so smooth (kinda like those early games where you turned with the arrow keys and whatnot), the speed is constant.

i had a config for one hand, some time ago, so i could play while eating.

The mysterious Mr. 4m wrote:i had a config for one hand, some time ago, so i could play while eating.

o.O

that kind of config might come in handy while playing in the place Mirio was depicting in this thread...

http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=5610

Radiohe4d wrote:Recorded on DCC 2.5.2 Minstagib server

Do we have a working aimbot for 2.5.2 out there?

Absolutely.

This is an automated shooter. No human plays like that.

There is clearly general guidance from a human, (such as when it moved left to peek around a pole for a shot) but the shots fire the instant the site crosses the target I counted only one clean miss, which might have been human induced.

Further the crosshairs give the on-target size jump in several instances PRIOR to the target coming around a corner. Not exactly a transparent wall hack, but a cross-hair hack.

It looks keyboard driven, rather than mouse driven, as every move and turn is at a constant rate.

But those who dismiss this as some really good kid on this or that type of equipment just don't want to believe their beloved game has been hacked that easily.

As for those posting about known aimbots, and nobody having anything to worry about: You only know about the aimbots someone wants to show you, not the really good ones.

I've gotten my butt shot off by players with over 200 ping making utterly awesome predictive shots when they were facing the opposite direction.

This is one weird aimbot, but aimbot it is.