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Hi all

I did not have Internet during 1 month, that thus allowed me to make you this first film. I had full with demo of version 2.0 and I had the idea of this film for a long time.
They are my prettier frags =)

What you can see inside (in order):
- An intro =)
- Ladder with Spirit
- with Esteel
- with dIM
- Some Running on BatServer
- Ladder with kill-0
- with Morfar
- Credit and thanks


size : 115.96 MB, format : WMV (sorry), duration : 9'53, resolution : 640/480
Have Fun !
New link : http://files.filefront.com/6818004

For people that interests, how I made this movie :
- Play Nexuiz recording demo with command "rec"
- Watch complete demos recording video and sound with Fraps (I used the half-size and 25fps else the file are too big).
- I looked at the videos thus produced in detail to select the best moments and I record them with VirtualDubMOD in xvid codec
- I assembled, make the transitions, put music, make the idles and other things with windows movie maker
- And Problem : can't record the movie in avi format, movie maker crashed , It is for that that I have save it in wmv.

some pretty nice shots, but the bad quality made it worse and yea too many nex

*HxC*Cuizinier wrote: - Watch complete demos recording video and sound with Fraps (I used the half-size and 25fps else the file are too big).

The engine has builtin video capture, that'll give you much better quality (the recording will be ok even if your framerate drops below 25fps, so you can record at ultra high setting )
see http://www.forums.alientrap.local/viewtopi ... =5806#5806

About the video capturing: http://www.forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?p=357#357
And also set cl_capturevideo_rawyv12 1 as KadaverJack adviced..

Ok i watched the movie Its quite nice but i have a few things to critizise. Due to the use of Fraps the picture quality is rather poor. Imagine the movie with such a quality: http://esteel.planetnexuiz.de/pics2/nexuiz000199.jpg . Its possible to capture really high quality images with the internal method DP offers.
There are far too many nexgun frags in the movie and the other weapons are hardly shown. I really love midiar rocket, grenade or electro hits. I guess many others also find those more impressing .
An other weak thing (not actually in the movie but Nexuiz) is that there are no gibs. When you use cl_nogibs 1 to disable the gibs they are not in demo. It looks rather funny to just see the guys vanish with lots of blood but no gibs. I have gone back to cl_nogibs 0 but using a pk3 file to disable to gibs. At least for non ladder matches. This makes demos nicer.
The music is good and the clip selection is also nicely done. Maybe add a few more animated things. Your opponents names could be scrolling in or something.
Its indeed fun to watch the movie!

Thanks you very much esteel for all this advises i will try them for the next movie.
Fot the too many nex frags it is because I made the most of the frags with it.

I record demos with high.cfg and fps never drops below 25.

Nobody know a movie maker like ?
I cannot about it any more as of these plantings

If you have internet back you might want to visit #nexuiz.vid on quakenet.. You should be able to get advice there. I'm not into that stuff

as probably the first nexuiz vid it is ok. Hate the fov, but the gameplay looks fast and fluent with it like that as well.

like esteel said to many nex shot's, but it was a cool watch for first nex frag movie

I have uploaded an 8 MBits/s MPEG-2 version to

http://www.archive.org/details/Nexuiz_2 ... o_20060823

It has a resolution of 1280x1024x25fps. I have used mencoder 1.0pre8 to create it

mencoder -audiofile dpvideo010.wav -audio-demuxer 20 -rawaudio channels=2:samplesize=2:rate=48000 dpvideo010.yv12 -demuxer rawvideo -rawvideo w=1280:h=1024:fps=25:format=yv12 -o /tmp/film2.mpg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vhq:vbitrate=8000:aspect=1.33 -oac mp3lame -lameopts cbr:br=112 -of avi -ss 89 -endpos 432

was the command as I can remember it -- just in case someone cares and does not want to fiddle around for himself.

Use the -ss argument to determine the starting and ending positions within your video dump. -endpos determines the length, not the ending position...

Any suggestions for improvement of the video quality?

BTW: the file runs fine on my Athlon XP 2600+ (Linux/mplayer/nVidia GeForce Ti4800SE). You should probably not try running it on a much slower machine *g*.

BTW: the Makefile should contain the compiler argument -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 as otherwise the raw files have a limit of 2 GB (mine was approx. 45 GB)

whats the playtime of that clip ?

btw, plain mpeg2 is a fine format, but I don't think it is suitable for pure internet distribution, rather for DVDs. Internet distribution mostly means divx / xvid / x264 / quicktime where you can get very good quality with a 2pass 4 mbit setting.

GreEn`mArine wrote:whats the playtime of that clip ?

btw, plain mpeg2 is a fine format, but I don't think it is suitable for pure internet distribution, rather for DVDs. Internet distribution mostly means divx / xvid / x264 / quicktime where you can get very good quality with a 2pass 4 mbit setting.

432 seconds. One recorded match. Size does not really matter any more *g*.

I cannot play back x264 at this resolution, so I decided to use MPEG-2. Other formats are derived by the archive.org servers.

BTW: are all textures and sounds released under the GPL-2, too? Want to put a license on the vid.

yes, you are right that you can't playback a 1280x1024 mp4 clip, but that is the reason why usually such clips aren't released. mp4 clips are mostly 800x600 which is really good enough! It's better than DVD quality, so....

and this "size doesn't matter" is a lie!

Cinquero wrote:mencoder -audiofile dpvideo010.wav -audio-demuxer 20 -rawaudio channels=2:samplesize=2:rate=48000 dpvideo010.yv12 -demuxer rawvideo -rawvideo w=1280:h=1024:fps=25:format=yv12 -o /tmp/film2.mpg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vhq:vbitrate=8000:aspect=1.33 -oac mp3lame -lameopts cbr:br=112 -of avi -ss 89 -endpos 432

tip: you packed an mpeg stream into an avi container...
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/me ... codec.html

KadaverJack wrote:tip: you packed an mpeg stream into an avi container...

Uhm, you are right. Now that you say it...

Now the picture quality of this movie is way better. We just need to find a way to combine this with the nice scences in Cuiziniers movie and it would be a really really great thing to have. Though things can still get a bit better by using ultimate.cfg and hope the graphiccard can do the relief mapping stuff. But i found the hdr settings to be a bit high for facing worlds..

GreEn`mArine wrote:and this "size doesn't matter" is a lie!

Come on! Most people nowadays can get at least 6 MBit (at least here in Germany). The problem for me is rather that the archive.org servers are mostly rather slow (often less than 30kb/s).

esteel wrote:Now the picture quality of this movie is way better. We just need to find a way to combine this with the nice scences in Cuiziniers movie and it would be a really really great thing to have. Though things can still get a bit better by using ultimate.cfg and hope the graphiccard can do the relief mapping stuff. But i found the hdr settings to be a bit high for facing worlds..

What's the problem?

Its nevertheless nice to see things do not get too big..

Not directly a problem.. lets say Cuizi choose only the best scenes for his movie

esteel wrote:lets say Cuizi choose only the best scenes for his movie

Well, it was just a first try to get a response on the video quality, not the content quality.

Any idea which video editor to use under Linux? kino needs a lot of space and very long import times.

Yeah the video quality was ok though its not yet the highest possible..

I really love the relief mapping.. the floor looks just cool! Uh yeah.. i should have used FSAA, higher resolution and such stuff

But sorry i have no idea about video editing

esteel wrote:But sorry i have no idea about video editing

I first thought of building support for piping data directly to mplayer into the darkplaces engine, but then realized that this could probably be done by using a simple pipe. Now the next problem is that the DV format, to which mencoder could transform the yv12 output from nexuiz, only allows NTSC or PAL resolutions. ARGH! And it seems that Kino can only handle DV. Why not M-JPEG? That format is probably as simple as DV...

Ok, then I found out about the LiVES video editor for linux. It seems to be capable of handling MJPG or LJPG formats (the latter one improving hard disk space usage by a factor of 2.2+ over raw yv12), but has the disadvantage of converting every single frame into a preview jpeg file when opening the video file. That takes a LOT of time.

The next problem was that the file descriptors for the raw video dump are opened by nexuiz in a non-blocking mode. So, when writing to a pipe ("mknod ~/.nexuiz/data/video/dpvideo001.yv12 p"), the output is truncated -- probably after the first 64kb of every frame or so. Changing the code so that blocking writes are used (please commit that change to the nexuiz codebase in some way, maybe by using a cvar like cl_capturevideo_blocking), solved that problem. My solution is now to pipe raw yv12 video directly via a pipe into mencoder, which then writes the data to an avi using the loss-less LJPG compression.

An example script that creates the pipe node, starts the mencoder and nexuiz demo, and the corresponding ebuild file containing the code changes is available at https://stier.dynu.com/~myportage/games-fps/nexuiz/.

BTW: I have added the nexuiz code to my LXR source code cross referencer at https://stier.dynu.com/~lxr/nexuiz/source/.

Regarding the relief mapping: GeForce Ti4800SE is not OpenGL 2.0 compliant as far as I know... so that feature does not work here.

Yet another point: the vertical pixel size should be automatically set using the DPI information from the X org server. Usually, tvtime and other apps need that information, too. To make the nvidia driver work correctly, I had to set "UseEdidDpi" to "FALSE" and adjust the DisplaySize variable in xorg.conf. Many users have a bad display setup if this is not done automatically, because many TFTs have non-square pixels (4:3 format, but 1280x1024, ie. 5:4 resolution).

I consider it an art to be able to release superior movie quality movies with a small filesize....

E.g. you can put a 2h movie with fast motion (e.g. "Blade 1", the movie) into a 700mb file with sharp (!) quality and no artifacts.

GreEn`mArine wrote:I consider it an art to be able to release superior movie quality movies with a small filesize....

E.g. you can put a 2h movie with fast motion (e.g. "Blade 1", the movie) into a 700mb file with sharp (!) quality and no artifacts.

I know these movies. They all have a resolution of 680x360 or so. You can't deliver HDTV resolution at such bitrates. Or why do you think they need Blue-Ray discs for HDTV-DVDs?

euh and what's the point of delivering HD video for a game movie ???
a dvd quality like 720x576 pixels is far enough and will allow more people to read the video without the last high end computer.

Apart from that, using HD for a game movie is a good idea, but it HAS to be combinated with other video treatments, and used only as a final step in a global very high quality process. I mean the final format choice has to be coherant with the global content / editing quality of the movie.
For example, motion-blur is the thing that is missing the more in game videos, and whatever is the resolution of your video, if there's no motion blur the final result will be too near from a game and too far from a movie, too much 'clean'.

my 2 cents : a good video is still good in DVD resolution, and mostly important, even in HD, a bad movie is a bad movie

Hop Final version here : http://www.filefactory.com/file/5243d1/
I change it in the first post

Sorry for the quality but movie maker don't want save it in avi, only wmv :/
I think I will select best part of my movie and recapture it with the best quality that I can and I will use other video soft to make a high quality video.

I have a ati X800XL and an Athlon 64 3000+@2.6Ghz ... I think record demo with ultimate.cfg and AA don't make problems.

It will be well if you could say to me which are the frags that you prefer with time so that I put them in my new video
ex : 6.45/6.55

Do you think that I have to change fov ?, It is the fov that I play with : 130.

Thanks for your reply.

Cool stuff. Who performed that music? Don't you have any license issues with it?

If you concentrate on cool moves/shots so much, you could try more fast/slomos, more excessive speed changes.

Not any license issues

Music is Otep, I wrote it in Credit at the end.

130 fov is really to high

yes, capture it with fov 90-100, not more

You can think about hiding the status bar completely as well, or using r_letterbox xx (which will increase fov but let the scene look more movie-like )

I am downloading the movie and will keep you posted.

cuizinier i will gladly give you my movie.cfg and autoexec.cfg for it if you want to make another. (no Hud e.t.c, clear screen e.t.c)

i also have a few short test files i can show you, how it looks, e.t.c, just pm me on irc in #nexuiz.vid

I've watched your film.

First of all, I'd like to congratulate on the video, as probably I won't be able do make a video like this, so for a first effort, it's very good. Please keep this in mind while I review it.

Now for some harsh criticism

Music:
Very monoton, maybe you should use more songs (or were there? :F ). I don't like this genre too, but that's only a subject opinion, you can ignore this

Frags: As mentioned several times, too many nex kill. And for my opinion, maybe you should have wait a few more weeks with this film, to collect some realy exceptional frags. While I was watching it, there were several times, when I thought in myself:
"Yeah, yeah, nice frag, but what's so special in it?" (eg. mowing down n00bs in public isn't such the thing to show imho).,
But there were very god frags too, like the one, when you shot morfar with the nex, and then he blow himself up on the wall. That was very good More frags like that, and I'll have no complains

Quality:
For firtst efford, I think this is good. But only for the first The next time you release your video, I want to see much much better As for the fov, it wasn't annoying for me, as I play with 110.

Ending:
Please try to stick to english, as most of us speak/read english. I could understand, that you've thank all the "authors" in your film, but nothing more.

Conclusion:
I enjoyed watching the film, as I realy welcomed your efforts. But you've stepped on a road, on wich now you can't turn back. We want more and more films, and with lways better quality

Thank you for sharing this video, and gl for you next ones!

i watched the full version.

First of all ty cuizi for teh work, i assume you spent a lotta time on this

Nice frags for sure, but my main criticism is that this movie is more like a "Look at my skill" movie than a "Look at those beautiful [lucky, artistic, predictive or incredible] frags" movie.
It's hard for me to explain it in english...

But globally i was expecting a bit more frags quality from a guy who owns me at this point
I'm sure you have a lotta more impressive frags to show, with more various weapons ... so i wait for the second movie

Pure detail : the time and fps should be removed and viewsize set to 120.

Don't hesitate if you need some help about video capture and motion-blur adding, i'll be happy to advise you (in french ) about the way to get high capture quality.