Okay, I don't think this is a big issue:

• Aggressor
• Aneurysm
• Bloodprison
• Darkzone
• Downer
• Farewell
• Runningman
• Runningman_1on1remix
• Slimepit --> replaced by Reslimed
• Soylent
• Stormkeep
• Toxic
• Warfare
• Ruiner (new)

DieselPower is too big, and I also think so is Final Rage!

Final Rage should be tested.. i think it has that sweet size between small 1on1 and big 2on2 maps.. Kinda like q3dm6 which worked for both..

Also why was evilspace not in the maplist? I guess there was a reason for it, maybe some too strong gun.. is that still valid with the rebalancing?

imo evilspace is a much too open map for 1on1, a real spawn rape fest...
weapon balancing does not change that

esteel, you are absolutely right about final rage

The map just played great in a test 2on2, and needs to be tested for 1on1 too (1on1 doesn't have the strength tho )

EDIT: After that map is tested and some feedback is given here, I can update the 1on1 ladder mappool.

I'll update the ladder pool now

The new pool:
Okay, I don't think this is a big issue:

• Aggressor
• Aneurysm
• Bloodprison
• Darkzone
• Downer
• Farewell
• Runningman
• Runningman_1on1remix
• Reslimed
• Soylent
• Stormkeep
• Toxic
• Warfare
• Ruiner (new)
• Final Rage (new)

Please note that it could happen that some maps of the q3 mappack could be added to the pool as well (for 1vs1). Further discussion about this will follow.

Get rid of farewell?

it's nearly as bad as DM01 for 1on1...

Hey! No!

I'll probably open a separated poll for that issue.

It really sux

k0jak wrote:Get rid of farewell?

it's nearly as bad as DM01 for 1on1...

indeed it sucks

At least you can't spam that easily on Farewell as its rather open.

esteel wrote:At least you can't spam that easily on Farewell as its rather open.

but to small

cortez wrote:but to small

We're talking about 1on1 ladder, right? So playing it at least wouldn't hold the risk of too few frags (like on Aneurysm or Stormkeep).

And then we'd have to get rid of Downer, Bluesky, Toxic and actually Darkzone as well.

I dont think the mappool is too big actually. If you don't like a map, just don't play it. Nobody's forced to play all maps.

Urmel.dll wrote:

cortez wrote:but to small

We're talking about 1on1 ladder, right? So playing it at least wouldn't hold the risk of too few frags (like on Aneurysm or Stormkeep).

And then we'd have to get rid of Downer, Bluesky, Toxic and actually Darkzone as well.

I dont think the mappool is too big actually. If you don't like a map, just don't play it. Nobody's forced to play all maps.

But the fact is that there is better suitable maps.

Urmel.dll wrote:And then we'd have to get rid of Downer, Bluesky, Toxic and actually Darkzone as well.

why darkzone and toxic?

as small as farewell.

Well downer and farewell have the problem that its quite easy to control the few good guns in the map but that does not neccessarily mean they are bad 1on1 maps. It just makes it hard to comeback into the match when your opponent got a lead. but isn't that kinda the key to 1on1?

esteel wrote:Well downer and farewell have the problem that its quite easy to control the few good guns in the map but that does not neccessarily mean they are bad 1on1 maps.

depended much on the skill i remind a match with stryku, when i got in the map its very very hard to get the other one out. When you get the other one out the problem is the you mostly have only a few health point and one shotgun shot and you are dead and the other one get back in.
If your oppent got a much better skill its near to impossible to get em out !

esteel wrote:It just makes it hard to comeback into the match when your opponent got a lead. but isn't that kinda the key to 1on1?

i would say no

farewell is too easily dominated by the stronger player. Like downer its a map i dont play 1on1, as it simply is no fun.