As quite some players are complaining about the map 'nexdm01', I will give you a chance to show that in this poll. The poll will run for a week and you will all be able to vote whatever you like to. According to the result the map will stay or be removed from the ladder mappool.

Btw: If the vote results in a draw, nexdm01 will stay.

Nexdm01 is deleted from the mappool due to a 12:7 vote result.

Read the official news on the ladder page for this

GreEn`mArine wrote:Read the official news on the ladder page for this

Done. K. tnx.

Did You know some certain weirdos add the Ladder Login to their favourites and never get lead to tha news page due to that until theyre told to do so?

people simply shouldn't add the loginpage to their favorites but the news page instead ...

GreEn`mArine wrote:people simply shouldn't add the loginpage to their favorites but the news page instead ...

Fuddy-duddy, Yi'll neber get become a reel NSB

gtz Urmielsor

Urmel aus dem Eis wrote:

GreEn`mArine wrote:Read the official news on the ladder page for this

Done. K. tnx.

Did You know some certain weirdos add the Ladder Login to their favourites and never get lead to tha news page due to that until theyre told to do so?

I did that too That ism the fisrt page i got after loging. Makes sense.. That is no excuse not to read thennews now and then though. Green is very good at keeping the news, rules, and help updated, so most of what I'm looking for is found there at most times, I've learned

If I wouldn't be kicked earse again for spamimg the whoel forum I would answer now that dis is very right wahtcha saing, GreEn is as and great, untiring and dependable as You can wish Site admin, my company can only dream about having such a habile man for its site!

But netherveless Yer qite a little rinky dinky apple-polisher @tChr to shoot in da bag of yer poor brave klahn brother

Whats so bad about NexDM1 map

Its ideal for a 1 vs 1 since its small in size, no nexgun (sniper) for campers ,
easy to navigate, great little map for grapple. Enough weapons.

Sounds like the ppl bitching about the level are campers or snipers

Seems the dm01 fans wohk up at last. 2 late

Actually Yer right, the map itsself is qwite good for 1on1 (though I dunnow why it should be odd not to have a nexgun in the map), but the MH, mortar and hagar are so fukcin close togehter. when a slightly skilled player once gets control over the right point the other one doesn't have a whiff of a chance.

Bad thing is: Grap mortar, spam like hell, opponent gets killed.. repeat till timelimit is reached.. In the mean time make sure you get enough 100-health and armor to survive.
The other weapons in the map are not really up to the destruction of of mortar. The crylink can do much damage but its hard to hit and kill someone and its place is perfect for spamming grenades, the electro is almost imposible to reach AND get out to attack and the hagar is also hard to get without getting fragged to pieces.

1v1 i found this to be probably the worst map to break domination as the opponent gains "blast damage" weapons. ie the mortar.

theres little place to run that cant be hit from under, over, through or spammed making it nigh on impossible to regain health or armor once your "naked" after a kill.

Turkey shoot.

Maybe a changed item placement would help.. what if the 100health was near the steps by the crylink or the norner between crylink and machine gun. (oh i forget that weapon.. well its also no match for the mortar.
Well i think the map is a bit too small for 1on1

Urmel aus dem Eis wrote:
the MH, mortar and hagar are so fukcin close togehter.

like I said.....

The results are pretty even. Maybe somebody could make a 1on1 version of it.

What do you think should be changed to make it a 1on1 version?

The spawn points would have to be overworked, mortar would have to be removed, and guess, I always missed a nexgun there

Hehe i think this map is REALLY to small to warrant a nexgun.
But i still have a hard time to imagine other changes then those i mentioned earlier. What ideas do you and the others have?

i know im to late but...

nexdm1 was changed to basement and there is a CTF map which is based on basement

my question why dont we put the basement map as a 1on1 Deathmatch map in the mappool?

I think the map has got a good balance so the map is good for a fair 1on1

basementctf (which is the map you mean) is too big for 1on1s

GreEn`mArine wrote:basementctf (which is the map you mean) is too big for 1on1s

I take it as you know there is a DM version too. Which is too small and too inappropriate for 1on1, read below.

cortez wrote:i know im to late but...

nexdm1 was changed to basement and there is a CTF map which is based on basement

my question why dont we put the basement map as a 1on1 Deathmatch map in the mappool?

I think the map has got a good balance so the map is good for a fair 1on1

You couldn't be more wrong. That map is horrible on 1on1. Basicly the one who has the mortar wins, and if you go up against someone better than you, you'll probably will lose the will to fight after just a few minutes. This map might only suit newbies and people who cannot play too well, cause for experienced players, this is a no no.

GreEn`mArine wrote:
basementctf (which is the map you mean) is too big for 1on1s

no its not to big because the map is very falt and open enough to see a lot so there no one need to search for the other

and the importantst thing you got 2 Mortars ,2Hagars and 2Rocketlaunchers and no one can controll both Mortar spawn points so you have even a chance to win a match when the other one controll a mortar spawn point


ai wrote:
You couldn't be more wrong. That map is horrible on 1on1.

yes i know ai, maybe you dont understand me i agree you to 100% nexdm1(Basement)
is a horror for 1on1s
But i think CTF Basement is better for 1on1s.

urmel wrote:
The spawn points would have to be overworked, mortar would have to be removed, and guess, I always missed a nexgun there


you always miss a nexgun, or dont you?

cortez wrote:and the importantst thing you got 2 Mortars ,2Hagars and 2Rocketlaunchers...

IIRC there is no rocket launcher. There's mortar, mg, hagar, electro, maybe something else but I think that's it. Unless you are talking about adding a rocket launcher, which even if CTF Basement would be a 1on1 would not fit as that map is still too small for a rocket launcher.

ai wrote:
IIRC there is no rocket launcher. There's mortar, mg, hagar, electro, maybe something else but I think that's it. Unless you are talking about adding a rocket launcher, which even if CTF Basement would be a 1on1 would not fit as that map is still too small for a rocket launcher.



damn right!!!!
sorry of course there is a Rocketlauncher wrong
i didnt want edit a rocketlauncher there