kojak vs m0rfar

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Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:36 am

  • The word on the street is that kojak is playing m0rfar on sunday 2006-04-09 around 19:00 CEST / 18:00 BST (British Summer Time).

    They are currently ranked 1st and 3rd on the ladder, with 1139 and 1084 points, so this is probably going to be a real exiting match. The same word on the street tells me that the maps played are going to be nexdm03 and nexdmextra2, the latter considered as both players "home map".

    Now this is gonna be freakin interesting!

    Kojak is as we all know a very good player.. So is morfar. Both players has zero(!) losses on their ladder stats, and this will surely not end until one of them is a winner. I cannot imagine either player letting this ending even.

    Kojak is insane with the Mortar, wich both these maps have, then again so is Morfar, and imo a mortar vs mortar fight with good players would be chaos, so itd be exiting to see if any of then choose some interesting weapons tactic for these matches. I'd say Kojak is just a bit better with the nex than morfar is, at least to some degree, so maybe morfar will try and drag the battles a bit away from the open places. In narrow spaces the mortar is best for spamming nonetheless, and these players moving skills make them less vunerable to this. Both players has very, very good aim. Allthough I could not tell them apart in normal gameplay, Kojak is imo better at aiming during high speed/heavy movement.

    Even though both are very skilled players, i think there are some differences in player style. m0rfar is a killer, and seems cool and concentrated about it, activly searching for the opponent rather than moving tactical only. Kojak is more of a berzerk. A very skilled and controlled berzerk, but is more agressive and out there. Kojak is also very good at moving the map in effective patterns, and going for the opponent on sight. They are both very good at predicting player moves, but I think m0rfar is just a tad better at guessing where the opponent will show up.

    extra2 is a map where a lucky frag can turn the game around, and I think the outcome of extra2 will be quite tight. Extra2 will either be a colossal loss to one of them, or very even. i'd guess on pretty even. In wich case 03 will decide the outcome of the match.

    dm03 is kinda out there, imo. Its a map thats kinda hard to totally control, unless the players are very uneven, not too much health, and just one full armor. The one that controls the armor areas are likely to dominate, however a skilled player can quite easily break the domination here, especially since the mortar, MH and Nex is fully accesible without getting in the LOF of someone controlling the armor area. I think this map will wave back and forth some. maybe putting one ahead 3-4 frags before the other one starts catching up. Due to the lack of armor, i think the Nex will be the most important tool to finish off the opponent here. At least for the dominating player.

    Cant wait to see this.

    As for the winner. My guess is:
    extra2: marginal victory to kojak. maybe 32-28 (ish)
    dm03: victory to kojak 25 - 15 (ish)

    Please share your predictions about this game.
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:53 am

  • A nice read/prediction, thankyou for making one, the game should be played on sunday at 18:00 GMT/19:00 cet like tChr says, i think he is (got to ask green?) to set up perhaps some spectator slot for himself, not sure at the moment.


    I'd agree with m0rfar being better at predicting, a lack of playing enough for me is the problem in this case, and not having the opportunity to play him enough, practicing.


    here's some from the other players.

    <luna> I expect you to win kojn. Morfar is a strong player, but I've never seen him time items like you do.


    <[NSB]tChr> comon all.. lets put the pressure on kojak :)


    please right your own oppinions :)
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:11 am

  • Like i said, i look foward to adding a '1' onto your losses ;)
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:05 am

  • well, spectator slots won't be allowed (see Rules Page ^^) but as you both might upload the demos the people gonna get what they want anyway ^^

    I can't predict a score, but I would say that it will be not that even, rather a 3:2 ratio or so for the winner
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:58 am

  • [NSB]Urmel likes M0rfar


    I'm always for the underdog, so WIN @M0rfar, da NSB will ppwer Youp! :mrgreen:

    @K0jak nuffin personal, sure You know :D
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:11 am

  • Yeah, please upload both your demos when the match has finished!
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:20 am

  • GreEn`mArine wrote:well, spectator slots won't be allowed (see Rules Page ^^) but as you both might upload the demos the people gonna get what they want anyway ^^

    I was hopoing you could make me a temp admin or so, so that I could be called in as a spectator :D Also it would be gret if you could spectate with me, and noth of us also creatin free-fly demos. Both players agree to this.

    The reason for this is that people have asked for continous updating during the match, and I'd like to create a video out of this, and some free-fly footage would be good :)
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:37 pm

  • Well m0rfar already lost a map to me, but the overall win was his because of frags.. Good for him that map is not played :)
    I saw kojaks name in an UT movie those days and he got shot.. guess thats a sign he'll go down :)
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Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:32 am

  • pleaeaeaeaease !!! open a spectator slot for this match :) :) :)

    it would be so great for my video :D :D
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Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:46 am

  • the mage is over.. First map pretty even, secon map win to morfar. Owerall winner Morfar.

    The game was broadcast live with sound and commentary... It was fun. Gotta do that again some time :)
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Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:34 am

  • ai: hehe its easy to say afterwards..

    The comments from tChr have been cool indeed. But something like GTV would be even cooler. Having specator slots that just relay the demo so that several other people can connect to the relays and watch the match.

    hey, why was i the only one saying m0rfar would win? (before the match :))
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Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:21 am

  • ai wrote:I already know who will win. Not a big deal for me.


    @esteel You were? 8)
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Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:23 am

  • Urmel aus dem Eis wrote:
    ai wrote:I already know who will win. Not a big deal for me.


    @esteel You were? 8)


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Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:23 am

  • i am telepathetic too. i can tell when things have happened.

    i predict M0rf will win .... im working on the score right now ...... uh its clouded ...

    ai is gonna thrash me in a few games early this morning too !

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Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:39 pm

  • could the spectators send their demos :) :) it would be some nice video rushs ;)
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Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:06 pm

  • obi_wan wrote:could the spectators send their demos :) :) it would be some nice video rushs ;)

    Green spectaded from player view, so thats no good, better to use the player's own.

    I spent most of my time when free-fying to actually try and find the guys.. not too much fun there either :)
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Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:15 pm

  • even if it is only for 2 or 3 seconds, it can be useful ;), because i have the demos from the 2 sides (i actually will when kojak will have uploaded his demo and put the link on the match comments in the ladder) and it's great to have another point of view.
    Time sync won't be hard to do, because there are a lot of 'instant events & sounds'
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Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:42 pm

  • ai wrote:I know it's easy to say afterwards, but honestly, I never doubted morf.

    (And I was very busy this weekend so didn't have time to post or socialize myself with others that much)



    it's easy to say, but the game was quite tight, and could of gone either way with both of us, i know he was nervous as well since he told me after his hands were shaking, but what an aim mate once you got going :), rematch has already been set (this sunday ok again m0rfar?)

    I think nerves got to me most, which happened when i played luna in practice matches, he beat me twice, but afterwards i calmed down once i know i can match or beat him and i never worried about it again like in my ladder match against him, i expect to do the same this weekend to morfar.

    morfar pld better on dm03 then me, im not as good on it at the moment and im not ashamed to admit that, if the timelimit was longer on extra2 he might of even peeked that with his momentum he had.
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:31 am

  • The demo is well worth the watch, at least for the first 5 minutes, the rest of it is quite good, i only watched up to about 8-9 minutes, but its got a lot of really good shots in early on (for you obi-wan :) )
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:43 am

  • http://excalibur.nvg.ntnu.no/nexuiz/ladderdemos/ladder_2006_04_09_koj_vs_morf.dem

    The demo from the fist map is not very good. The second map is much better, as i obviously know it better and there is no teleporters :) There are much more ficgths recorded in the second map.

    note 4:22 into the second map is the grenade nex combo i shouted about oin the commentary :) good angle too :)

    It jsut occured to me that the problem in extra2 is all the vertical movement.. Vertical movement is slow in freefly combined to in-game :)
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:47 am

  • obi_wan wrote:even if it is only for 2 or 3 seconds, it can be useful ;), because i have the demos from the 2 sides (i actually will when kojak will have uploaded his demo and put the link on the match comments in the ladder) and it's great to have another point of view.
    Time sync won't be hard to do, because there are a lot of 'instant events & sounds'

    there sar some shots in the first map that are ok.. lots on the second map. If you are going to make a movie, it would be cool if you used the players' settins in 1st person mode so that we couould see what it really looked like for them, and maye as hi quality as possible for the overviews :)
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:28 am

  • great demos :)
    men, it will be a great clip ;)

    does anyone know how to play a demo backward ? it would be sometimes more "confortable" for me :) (i already use the esteel's config file for demoviewing, but didn't find any backward command)
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:48 am

  • Thats not possible.. A demo is just a copy of the packets you get from the server.. you would have to redo/recalculate them somehow. Damn i can't watch those demos right now.. But the one from morfar yesterday was very cool.
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