Just wanna start a discussion to get things running (guess why)

As I already experienced it's not that big fun to do the minstagib 1on1 in the classical mode. I could imagine a frag after let's say 5 hits or more would be like much more exciting.

What do you think about that?

I don't like that Idea
Instagib is "insta" gib and not "insta/5" gib! And I don't think creating too many ladders makes any sense. a 2on2 minstagib ladder does make sense...but 1on1 minstagib ? I don't think so.

GreEn`mArine wrote:
Instagib is "insta" gib and not "insta/5" gib!

Yes, right, boss. Yet I like the idea of that game mod very much although I haven't seriously experienced it. But the fights should be a hell of a fun

GreEn`mArine wrote:
And I don't think creating too many ladders makes any sense. a 2on2 minstagib ladder does make sense...

Well, team minstagib... should be as boring as 1on1 minstagib. IMO fun at the minstagib only becoming fun when there are more than 3 players in a classical death match manner.

Let's create a 1on1 minsta5gib ladder!

I would really love a 1on1 minstagib ladder. If there is one hit to kill or 5 hits for one kill is uninteresting for me.

A one on one ladder for minstagib would be really great. I would be the first member.

But in one thing i agree with green marine. It is called minstagib not minstagib/5.

In my opininion it would be better to rise the frags that are needed to win a match. Maybe 50 frags, this could be a good rate for an 10 minutes match.

Please make such an ladder.


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True that it'd be funny to have a nex-only ladder. In that one i could stick the real bottom of the rankings Also there are a lot of very good players who only play minstagib (like secm or shaolin monks). I think they'd like to have a nex-only-ladder, as for some they really suck in standard deathmatch and do never play it (no i won't give names )

Notice that i didn't say minstagib ladder, but nex-only ladder... as urmel's idea seem good to me and you seem to be sticked on a vocabulary precision problem.
But if you need 5 shots per kill, and it is one on one, something as to be adapted about the amount of ammo, coz i can already see what'll happen : there will be people who control ammo, avoid more than possible the oppenant's shots, and finally wait that the oppenant kill himself coz of a lack of ammo.


Anyway green, from a php point of view... If the multiladder system is ready, i assume creating a new ladder is rather easy now... doesn't it ?

creating ladders is infact very easy. It requires, however, the initial work to think about news texts, ladder rules and the mappool for that ladder which makes it "hard" again ^^.

Let Urmel do it

Very good idea

i think 1on1 minstagib would be good.

Before I do anything we'll have to finish the discissoin about how many hits will be a frag.

basta

Urmel... wrote:Before I do anything we'll have to finish the discissoin about how many hits will be a frag.

basta

its minstagib. one hit - one frag

basta

"its minstagib. one hit - one frag "

confirmed

Well, this doesnt really blow me off the chair. What about the other aspecst? Should we have a restriction by the choice of the maps? On minstagib you have far better possibilities to frag from a distance. So the bigger maps could be played as well.

Maybe some custom maps should be added to the pool.

What do you think of fraglimit instead of a timelimit? Playing 3 instead of 2 maps...

So come on you crahy minstagibbers, tell us what you want.

Urmel... wrote:So come on you crahy minstagibbers, tell us what you want.

aside from shitloads of beer i'd like to have a classic minstagib-ladder with no great changes in rules. some custom maps are fun, but we should vote about the maps anyway
setting a fraglimit in ladder matches doesn't make much sense imo

and would you allow the powerups to be on...like the extra lives...personally i'd like this, but then i guess if you want it raw 'instagib' then not to have these.

lol, I think it would reduce the whole thing into two roles: one who despretly tries to reach teh MH and the other camping around the MH to frag him down for that

Well, i like the idea of a minstagib ladder, too. I would prefer not changing the rules of minstagib. One hit one frag.

Another alternative might be to activate MH, Health and armor. So you might have to hit the opponent more than one time. Then i think the ammo for the nex should be unlimited.

Hmm, i still prefer the plain minstagib-ladder.

ammo should be unlimited if it's 1on 1

then its instagib, not minsta, bu i see yur point.

it should be 'instagib' it's up to you if you want to have the secondary fire, and powerups.

k0jak wrote:it should be 'instagib' it's up to you if you want to have the secondary fire, and powerups.

The Nexgun's default secondary is ZOOM wtf and Nexuiz' instagib is pussy crap arf arf arf bark wail

Still I think a 1on1 minstagib in the spirit of "one hit one frag" will bore us all to death

ok minstagib...but its whether you want to have the powerups or not.

k0jak wrote:ok minstagib...but its whether you want to have the powerups or not.

Not sure if we should kick or keep 'em. I'd say kick em!

Btw on the DCC website (link can be found in my signature atm) you can find a link to a 1on1 server now where you can vote for 1on1 minstagib (vcall g_minstagib 1) just to try out how boring 1on1 at classic minstagib mode is gonna be

yesterday btw we found another cool minstagib mod. it happens on the current map youre playing when you vote for minstagib mode. all the standard DM items are there and keep respawning. for every health pack you get (according to its size) one or more extra lives. so it's just very easy to get them and you have to hit your enemy lots of times before he's fragged, but then quite difficult to get enuff ammunition for the nex, and without it youre gonna die, just like in the regular minstagib.

We really had lots lots lots of laughing and fun, I'd recommend to try this out once

You'd be constantly running out of ammo. Sounds fun!

I think its a good idea!

For a 1on1 match i think three to five minutes should be enough
and idea you have everything you have in a normal 1on1 is good
i think so bad player like me have a chance to win too.

Maybe you havent notized yet, tChr set up the first 1on1 minstagib ladder server ever. Its running schmooov like all of hiz. So try it out and check if that kinda ledder would be a thing.

And btw, also worth a try: tChr's Minstagib CTF Server

I have see it and i try it

i play on both server


1on1:
Boring the time limit is to high(in my opinion)

CTF:
That makes fun

Urmel... wrote:Maybe you havent notized yet, tChr set up the first 1on1 minstagib ladder server ever. Its running schmooov like all of hiz. So try it out and check if that kinda ledder would be a thing.

And btw, also worth a try: tChr's Minstagib CTF Server

Played vs tChr himself tonight. 2.2.1 refire timings. fairly fun but the maps needs to be selected carefully. It gets boring real fast running arround serching for the target for 2 mins and then gettin nex'd in the back. Running outa ammo dident seem to be an issue. So small maps, perhaps a bit faster movement and refire could be tha shiz. I dont play lader however so i dunno if this is better or worse then the usual stuff = P

Ah and could someone explain to me why just the nexuiz-release included maps are run on ladder servers? i mean its not realy like you can acctualy do somethign abt a client using a homebrew .bsp with the same filename anyways. Just curiose.

tZork wrote:Ah and could someone explain to me why just the nexuiz-release included maps are run on ladder servers? i mean its not realy like you can acctualy do somethign abt a client using a homebrew .bsp with the same filename anyways. Just curiose.

Cause the ladder rules limits the maps of choice to a subset of the ones included with nexuiz. Those maps believed to be as balanced as possible.