I meant Warsow.

Never had any grey square problems with Nexuiz, just recent performance issues.

check Ya moboard drivers

Urmel aus dem Eis wrote::D check Ya moboard drivers

I'm not so sure this will help as Nexuiz 1.2.1 is running fine for kozak6. You had problems will both versions right? At least it would be very strange if not
But yeah it might be wort a try..

hard for me to say. I'm totally confused about the changes and fixes I did the last few weeks. No more f0ckin plan what or when and how, it blew my poor brain out

But I remember I've had already some probs before 1.5, but they've got even stronger and stranger when changing to it.

ihsan wrote:For engine performance warsow OWNS Nexuiz. I get > 60 fps with realtime lights, shadows in warsow, <1 fps in Nexuiz. I'm on a laptop but seriously, <1 fps!
Secondly, warsow has reflection maps which Nexuiz doesn't seem to have. Why not?

For once i redownloaded warsow and took a very quick look at the lights/shadows you mention but they do NOT seem to be realtime, per pixel shadows as Darkplaces (the engine nexuiz uses) has. I'm not a pro at such things and to be honest i try to disable those things when possible so i might be wrong. What warsow has seems to stencil shadow which are much faster..
Or maybe i missed some option

Right, Warsow doesn't do any realtime shadows rendering excepting simple stencil shadows for models.
I like Nexuiz btw. Why would people have to choose? It's not like if you won't have money to buy both at once.

Warsow doesn't run on macOS X.... Nexuiz does
I tried it on a windows PC, and it's really slow (i mean running in warsow is like walking in nexuiz...). Nexuiz is more nervous.
I tried to do jump-tricks in warsow, and it was really hard to reproduce what I've seen in the videos (perhaps I didn't try enough... but in nexuiz it's not so hard).

Warsow can be pretty fast if you know how. After all its a game that lives quite heavily by its trickjumps.
Well Nexuiz does not have less trickjumps then warsow has. But its also good the games are quite different so people can choose one or both depending on their likings. The thing is also that warsow is still 0.72a (or similar) while Nexuiz is already 1.5(.1 soon) so comparing both is rather unfair and they are also aimed at different audiences.
Maybe we should lett this topic rest now..pick what ever you like and be happy with it.

Wow, I have to choose between both?

I have definately played hundreds more hours in Nexuiz, from pre-release to curretn SVN builds, watched it progress, and watched it evolve.

I played Warsow last year, thew alpha. Not much was there, not much worked.

I downloaded it again, alongside the newest Nexuiz SVN.

When I loaded up Nexuiz, it was smoother and faster than before. New maps, new weapon dynamics, new options. I liked it, it felt like a woman who had recently taken the time to fix herself up. Csometic changes, dressed up, but at the core, still the familiar and beautiful game.

Warsow on the other hand had changed copmletely from one thing to another. I wass thrust into the smooth framerate, visually pleasing game unlike anything else I'd tried before. Sprites for items: brilliant! Cel (fake I know) shading: magnificent! For once in a long time I wass out of my comfort zone - I was a newb again. I can go from Nexuiz to Sauerbraten with no learning curve, to Unreal Tournament. Simple. But Warsow provided the excitement of learning new fresh gameplay.

The jumping is still a little unporedictable, I'm a newb again - it feels like the first time for me. I'm getting all nostalgic and feeling what it was like to load up that alpha of Nexuiz, or how I found myself lost in the first FPS I played: UT2003 demo. A lot fo the players are french, and although I speak french, their french leet is beyond me. It was like the firs titme you see 'GG' and wonder what it means.

I must say that by now, Nexuiz has lodged itself into a place in me where navigating feels natural, it feels like an extension of me. Warsow seems like holding something yoiu're unsure of, it give you a rush and excitement.

I love how smoothly they both run, both capable of looking excellent in their chosen visual styles. I really enjoy the cel-shading. The planar shadows in Warsow provide more semblance of shadowing than me having to turn of all RTlights on my machine under Nexuiz. I am very pleased that we now have 2 commercial quality open-source cross-platform games to choose from.

@Cervix: I don't think advertising your game to another open-source game forum is a troll or bad: I think it's very welcome. I think the Nexuiz community and the Warsow community have a lot to offer each other, and the players would appreciate the difference betweent the games and enjoy both. (the Alien Arena community has been less than helpful)

Keep up the good work everybody, and keep up the gaming and support!

Nexuiz rulezzzz



Wrasow looks like a bad comic

That Thread was dead for almost 3/4 year..
Can't we just leave it that way and accept some people just like different games?

Suggestion: delete this thread... it was obviously made to fish for warsow players... it shouldn't be here.


On a side note, after I saw warsow mentioned in other threads (in the nex forum), I ended up downloading it (the jumping sounds are so fucking annoying it's unbelievable)... I would like to know why I get considerable better performance with warsow. If I could get the same fps with Nexuiz (I have almost all effects turned off and still get relatively shit fps... not a high end maching but it's good enough to get pretty good fps on warsow), I wouldn't have any excuses for not being able to aim anymore, other than my blatant permanoobage.

if you dont like it.. dont bump it.. d'oh

I only found it because it was at the top of the first page... that's not exactly bumping it.

Anyway, I don't have a personal problem with it.