In my opinion a fast paced action game like Nexuiz should have weapons that "look" more like what they are supposed to do. Not like they should be copies of weapons of other games, but you shouldn't have to stop and think "what the hell is this weapon I picked up" every time (or at least the first time) you pick it up ingame. They surely could use more of the weapon design "clichés" we're used to. Some weapons are goo as they are, but some aren't, I don't think any of the weapons are ugly, but it's just that they do not quite look like you would expect a weapon of that function to look. The Rocket Launcher for example, looks like some kind of "super weapon", like a BFG, Redeemer or something of that kind. I think it would need a more cylindrical and less bulky (if that's the right word) design.
The shotgun and grenade launcher looks pretty much like you'd expect them too, but I think there should be more differences between the machine gun and that machine-rocket-launcher.

I hope I'm making any sense.

Yep, you are.. I agree, and there is an alternate RL model somewhere



btw.. the weapons are called:
laser
shotgun/SG
Machinegun/MG/Uzi
Mortar (the grenade launcher)
Electro
Crylink (the plasma shotgun)
Nexgun/Nex (the railgun)
Hagar (the grenade-MG)
Rocket Launcher/RL

tChr wrote:Yep, you are.. I agree, and there is an alternate RL model somewhere

And we would really like to include that RL model, but there are display bugs with it (black seams) when offsetmapping or reliefmapping are enabled, which is why I can't accept it as is.

but there are display bugs with it (black seams) when offsetmapping or reliefmapping are enabled, which is why I can't accept it as is.

I always wondered about that. Now I know why and what it is. Ahh, the power of the forums.

One thing I'd definitely like to see is new and innovative weapons introduced into the game, rather than simply refining the old ones in both looks and balance from release to release. I heard there was an issue with the engine not supporting more than nine weapons. I hope that issue is fixed soon so some modders or developers can start getting creative with this particular cornerstone of the game.

One thing I'd definitely like to see is new and innovative weapons introduced into the game, rather than simply refining the old ones in both looks and balance from release to release. I heard there was an issue with the engine not supporting more than nine weapons. I hope that issue is fixed soon so some modders or developers can start getting creative with this particular cornerstone of the game.

I'd like to see at least one more semi-powerful hit-scan weapon. Something that maybe does half of the Nex damage.

I know it looks terrible but I kinda just fooled around with the design a bit

yes.. it do look terrible, no weaponized hairdryer in nexuiz plz xD

Could replace the laser - and when aimed down, it would work as jetpack.

SCNR

how bout this nex?

tChr wrote:how bout this nex?

yeah

lol nexuiz 1.5 never worked on my computer

I think the nex had already been replaced in 1.5, hadn't it?

Anyway, if someone could put together a pk3 of the old Nex...

I think there is some pk3 in the forum.. or was that the OLD forum? Should be easy to make a pk3 file though.

Mr.Carlyle wrote:

One thing I'd definitely like to see is new and innovative weapons introduced into the game, rather than simply refining the old ones in both looks and balance from release to release. I heard there was an issue with the engine not supporting more than nine weapons. I hope that issue is fixed soon so some modders or developers can start getting creative with this particular cornerstone of the game.

I'd like to see at least one more semi-powerful hit-scan weapon. Something that maybe does half of the Nex damage.

Lightning Gun!!!!!!!!!!1

I think there is some pk3 in the forum.. or was that the OLD forum? Should be easy to make a pk3 file though.

Well here's another one for all those who would like it. The first is just the model change. The second includes the old particle as well.

http://files.filefront.com/Nex+Model+Oldschoolpk3/;8006497;;/fileinfo.html

http://files.filefront.com/Nex+Model+Oldschool2pk3/;8006843;;/fileinfo.html

Once downloaded just put the .pk3 into the Nexuiz\data folder.

Lightning Gun!!!!!!!!!!

/me concurs!

*cheaply scans topic*


... until I fired a weapon, I had no clue wtf it was supposed to do or it did something different... thats pretty much for all except the rocket launcher... yeah, weapons are seriously off... I can critisize and suggest stuff for all them weaps...

Well, I am no 3D modeller, otherwise I think I would have tried to make some proposals of my own.

I think the weapons should be based on current weapons (though I suppose one should choose the most futuristic looking), which you then remove things that 'identifies' it as a particular model or brand, and changing details to make it more futuristic looking, while retaining the basic design. I would expect a machine gun that is capable of firing single precision shots to have a long barrel, or perhaps some kind of scope, like the M16 or so, maybe the rocket launcher should have some kind of RPG design and so on. As for the weapons that use futuristic projectiles you should think of what the weapon is firing, how, and how the gun should look to be able to fire that stuff most efficiently.

I think that the shotgun, the MG (especially), and the RL need a makeover. The crylink too probably (not a bad design, it just looks poor ingame).

the shotgun is fine if you look at it from its wrong end; it looks kick-ass. But when YOU hold it, it looks like a multi-colored baton, which is ridiculous. It lacks vertical depth from the holder's perspective and feels like you're holding a wand.

Again, it looks fine if you're looking from the wrong end. Change the "held" version.

I know this is about weapon looks, not function, of weapons, but I was thinking (I saw "lightning gun" somewhere and thought: Why isn't there a taser?

I'm not suggesting the melee weapon that you poke people with to stun them, I mean a gun that shoots a continuous stream of electricity at a target and sucks their health (and only health-it wouldn't be blocked by armor anyway) at an exponential rate. There are some games with this already, including

Tribes (1,2,3): ELF (ElectroMagnetic Field) projector, it only sucks jetpack energy, but has the same basic concept.

Metroid Prime Hunters: Shock coil, does damage at exponential rate, and leeches to give energy to the user.

If this was implemented, the range would have to be around 15 feet (relative to game), and it should have mild homing capabilities (ie: if you're shooting a stream at them and the move slightly off your crosshair, you keep damaging them within a vicinity of your aim)

Also, who really uses the crylink? If we really can only have nine weapons, please overwrite this one for a better one (see above )

replace the crylink with an oversized hairdryer

VVVBRRRRR... Oh no! My hair!

Where can I get the alternate rocket launcher??

Here is the thread
http://alientrap.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1194&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=rocket+model&start=0

[TSA] Psychiccyberfreak wrote:replace the crylink with an oversized hairdryer

Somehow I'm completely attracted by this idea. Iz da shit!! YAY! Won't somebody do that plz?

ROFL!!!

lol. I love the hairdryer.

After a while, I think the weapons get kinda old. There's not too many weapons, and the designs look pretty fake. If anything in the game looks nice and detailed, it should be the gun. (It's in the foreground, and is right in front of your eyes)

All of the weapons should be redesigned for future versions. The function/name and stats can all stay the same, but I think the actual designs should be changed. (More weapons, maybe?)