Personaly i dont get why ppl even care abt typefrags that mutch. i mean its nice to try to avoid i guess, but if the not dying matters *that* mutch dont stop and type. The only thing i get seriosly enoyed at teammated by, in public games, is when some obviosly experianced player act stupid (lasering teammates away from pickups, ignoring team messages etc). Its nice that some public ctf servers have added "ffa" to their names. we should remeber what that abversion means. i strongly encurage ppl who wish to play a more "highlevel" game to participate in pickupgames and/or ladder games.

I have read all these posts and I find them interesting, I always thought lasering teammates was a good thing to do when I was fc'ing and needed say, a rocket launcher that some unconscientous teammate of mine was taking.

Most people do not realize how important those things are for capping quickly.

I am def guilty of lasering teammates and was not aware it was much of a problem, as I have always figured those people would have the time to stop and think why I needed to get my hands on some quality weapons, but I realize now that is not the best thing to do.

I guess I just expect galt's to be more team oriented when the reality is that it is far from it.

As far as switching teams, the scoreboard design means I have to actually stop and count for like 10 seconds to see if my team is 9v7 and thus switch over.

I usually stay on the losing team no matter what, I rarely quit in the middle of a game unless I get this confounded driver error I will be posting about soon in the tech help forum.

There really is no way to get better if you leave when your losing or switch teams and end up unevening things anymore.

If anything wouldn't it make someone proud to know they were on a team and all their newbie teammates and maybe one other good person was able to defeat a stacked team???>

To me that makes me feel great and I think it helps the newbies feel good to. I mean think about it, if a team full of newbs that is still trying to get to a point where they can frag someone like Icarus competitively without getting run into the dirt, wins against a stacked team with only one or two guys helping them, it would prolly make them feel really good.

They could say to themselves "HEY WE BEAT THAT TEAM!".

For me nexuiz is all about the team.

I am kind of with nifrek on the BDE guys thing too, they had some good potential but it's too bad they cannot refrain from seriously stirring the pot when it's empty.

Also, I would defend the act of spawnraping if my fc is explicitly going to grab the enemy's flag as it immobilizes the other team.

I usually only spawn rape when I have amp and try to do it when I have an FC about to go in, as in this scenario it is not about an easy way to point whore so much as it is about my FC getting back to the base with no trouble.

Just wanted to make that distinction on spawn raping, as if done correctly (as in don't spend half the game spawn raping people behind the base on Facing Worlds just for the fun of it) it is a legitimate if disgusting tactic.

For me playing middle/wingman or FC is where CTF is at in nexuiz.

Middle/wingman being my fav, and as such I usually enjoy fragging the begeezus out of people who cross mid, ESPECIALLY when my FC is coming back home to score.

Also, I am not the rev0 that Obi kicked as I can be quite an ass at times.

IMVHO people type WAY to much in this game.
Some players seem to use the damn game as a chatroom with a game going on in the background .
I don't intentionally typfrag but I will if some one is in my base, these people seem
to try to control the game to their advantage by typing so they are "safe"

I have been in games with 16 players where 50% of them are typing..
it's ridiculous

I tend to chat quite a lot... I generally seek proper cover though but sometimes being typefragged by a noob just happens and you shout at them and get over it. This incidentally involves even more typing...

As for team mates shooting me off weapons it annoys me severely. I have sought vengeance before and lasered people into lava or void. If I team kill accidentaly I usually apologise unless I dont realise.

If I want to go into a long chat, I spec, knowing full well I'll lose my score.
I get annoyed when players laser me simply because they want a weapon or ammo. Its very selfish of them. II am tempted to laser teammates when they double-up on the same weapon or knowingly steal health/armor from their FC.

Neuromancer wrote:If I want to go into a long chat, I spec, knowing full well I'll lose my score.
I get annoyed when players laser me simply because they want a weapon or ammo. Its very selfish of them. II am tempted to laser teammates when they double-up on weapons or knowingly steal health/armor from their FC.

The only time that's acceptable, is if that player just spawned, and you just took a weapon that they needed more. FC doesn't need weapons, but I can understand if he needs health/armor.

Psychcf wrote:The only time that's acceptable, is if that player just spawned, and you just took a weapon that they needed more. FC doesn't need weapons, but I can understand if he needs health/armor.

A number of times I've seen this: I just spawn and go to the nearest weapon. I'm lasered by a teammate who takes the weapon and runs off while the base is under attack.

What I meant to say earlier was, I hate when players take two of the same weapon. Again, someone just spawns and needs a weapon...they see a teammate with a nex take another nex in addition to all the nex ammo

Oblivion wrote:Ok as a master of Galt's Gulch servers I've been accused of abuse of power recently. I want to know if what I did was wrong. Here's usually how I respond:

I myself, as one who has been at the brunt of your abuse at one point or another, decided that that original person you were referring to with this note was in the wrong. On the same note though, you do abuse power. I have watched you kick others off. Warning people if they shoot you(even if they are on the other team) you will kickban them. You have kickbanned me on multiple times without warning. You are not a very fair player and I personally think you should have your master status yanked from those of us that enjoy Galt's as what it is, a game. Not "See-How-Big-A-Bitch-Obl can be"

I've never seen Obl abuse master. I agree with Obl's rules and how Obl handled the situation. GJ Obl

On a side note:

FatherBadTouch: Wtf are you talking about? Obl is a fair player, and does not abuse master in anyway that I've seen. How 'bout we play "Let's see how far FatherBadTouch can go with that post".

PCLizard wrote:I've never seen Obl abuse master. I agree with Obl's rules and how Obl handled the situation. GJ Obl

On a side note:

FatherBadTouch: Wtf are you talking about? Obl is a fair player, and does not abuse master in anyway that I've seen. How 'bout we play "Let's see how far FatherBadTouch can go with that post".

Sorry to say, you've never been on his bad side. He likes to hold a grudge over something that was SUPPOSE to be humourous.

Thanks PCL, unfortunately... this is another of the regular 12-year old asshats who think I'm out on a personal vendetta against them because I kicked them long ago (now that I've read his post, I might actually be tempted to go on a personal kickage spree with this loser).

FatherBadTouch wrote:
Sorry to say, you've never been on his bad side. He likes to hold a grudge over something that was SUPPOSE to be humourous.

Of course I hold grudges, especially WHEN after I kicked for a good reason, the player comes back with one last hateful comment before quitting. Thinking he can get away with it since he's off the banhammer clutches.

WRONG. The next time I catch you online after a hit and run insult like that, it's a ban. Regardless that it may have been a week before.

"You have kickbanned me on multiple times without warning."

Really? Pray tell me the names of other players who can verify this accusation. We all know the regulars. there must be someone who can back you up, right? So why am I not seeing them?

" On the same note though, you do abuse power. I have watched you kick others off. Warning people if they shoot you(even if they are on the other team) you will kickban them."

Again, really? How is it that it is only players who always misbehave who always complain about me being abusive. You reap what you sow. I actually liked you when you first started playing, and then you ruined that by calling me a 'fag'? You think you didn't deserve a kick for that? And I kickban VERY rarely.

If you don't like getting kicked, don't be an asshat. And if you don't like getting banned, don't be an asshat over getting kicked. And I don't see where the 'I'm not a very fair player and kick people who shoot me" comments are coming from. Methinks you are putting the lies on too thickly, my dear. If you have ever seen me ingame, you know I'm either at middle range or at the bottom (when lag is really bad). I don't kick people for shooting me, wtf?!

You've claimed you were Galt's nephew before, as if that would stop me from banning you for bad behavior (are you really? Coz if you were I'd ask Galt to beat the snot out of you for being such a spoiled brat). You constantly make excuses for obvious insults and misdemeanors and never apologize. Why should I tolerate your behavior?

I do admit I've made mistakes at times concerning teamswitchers especially, but I always apologize.

Masters are masters for a reason. It's not a popularity contest. I don't give a shite if all the asshats hate me, as long as the games that I am present in remain friendly and fair to ALL.

That said... Galt's is gone. I'm gonna miss it.

Oblivion wrote:That said... Galt's is gone. I'm gonna miss it.

Calling you fag was months ago and it was something stupid. I've calmed down since Galt's left us. Must be the mourning. Here's hoping the imitators can try and be like Galt's. Anywho, you're still a little off center but I'll bear with it and keep my mouth shut.

Oblivion wrote:blah

As a moralfag, you score 10/10. as a server admin, you fail.

vcalling a kick against a guy who is so shitty that he is actualy a liability to his team is EPIC WIN. This is teamplay. You support your team, or leave, ****. And the goal is victory. You do your best and cooperate and help others to win or you leave,****. If a team decides to make a **** substitution, i.e. removing the weaker player and letting the stronger play, it is GREAT. Shows how team wants to win. The competition spirit for **** sake. Also if that guy was so pitiful that he got a vote against him called, he should probably practice some bots and or read some basics.txt.

If it was a football game, and you were a judge (an arbiter? no habla inglis), you have effectively removed a player from field just because he asked his team to play as sub for weaker player. God damn it sucks and pisses me beyond words. How did you got into admin in the fisrt place? Pussies like you shold never be given master ever in any place.

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Do you really think this is the best time to start an argument on the forums alpha?

[-z-] wrote:Do you really think this is the best time to start an argument on the forums alpha?

Nope, I don't think so. But no one -- and I mean no one -- has defended my case when I was kcikbaned by esteel from degreen server for CHANGING MY **** NAME to some funny **** like "I am using aimbot". And so I don't **** care about the consequences, I will stand for that guy even if I would regret it much. **** it.

Mr. Oblivion, in that situation, you have acted like a douchebag, and should be treated as one. Furthermore, you have brought it out in public, and now you have to defend your position or apologize before (wat. no habla inglis) that rev0 guy.

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alpha wrote:But no one -- and I mean no one -- has defended my case when I was kcikbaned by esteel from degreen server for CHANGING MY **** NAME to some funny **** like "I am using aimbot". ..

I woulda stood by you on that call. I've got kicked for "OBL=GAY" and he though I was referring to him. In fact I was referring to "Other Blue Leader = Going All Yonkers" Meaning of course that the leader of the points on the blue team has gone nuts. Stay away from him at all costs, he's a deadly shot and quick. I still don't understand it, but he thinks I called him gay)). Imagine that.

FatherBadTouch wrote:Imagine that

So far all 4 of your posts on this forum have been about attacking this same member of the community. So I don't even have to imagine it.

FatherBadTouch wrote:I woulda stood by you on that call. I've got kicked for "OBL=GAY" and he though I was referring to him. In fact I was referring to "Other Blue Leader = Going All Yonkers"

Well, what do you expect? OBL is short for 'Oblivion', and gay)) we all know what it means. What you did was saying something that has _high_ chance of getting misinterpreted. When things get misinterpreted there tends to be consequences. In your case you had a bad history with Oblivion, so saying something like that would for sure lead to misunderstandings. It's like if I would go to USA, go in front of the white house and say: "Bush is gay)). I'm gonna go how and fetch some oil and burn the bush down! Death to bush!".
How would you think that would be interpreted? When I _clearly_ (i.e. only I knew what I was talking about) was talking about vegetation, not the president.

One last thing. Saying the word 'gay))' you should expect people to immediately think of the homosexual kind. People don't think "Oh, he meant 'Going All Yonkers'."
Say 'I have bombs' in an airport and you'll rise suspicion, even if it means 'I have big old manly boobs'.

ai wrote:

FatherBadTouch wrote:I woulda stood by you on that call. I've got kicked for "OBL=GAY" and he though I was referring to him. In fact I was referring to "Other Blue Leader = Going All Yonkers"

Well, what do you expect? OBL is short for 'Oblivion', and gay)) we all know what it means. What you did was saying something that has _high_ chance of getting misinterpreted. When things get misinterpreted there tends to be consequences. In your case you had a bad history with Oblivion, so saying something like that would for sure lead to misunderstandings. It's like if I would go to USA, go in front of the white house and say: "Bush is gay)). I'm gonna go how and fetch some oil and burn the bush down! Death to bush!".
How would you think that would be interpreted? When I _clearly_ (i.e. only I knew what I was talking about) was talking about vegetation, not the president.

One last thing. Saying the word 'gay))' you should expect people to immediately think of the homosexual kind. People don't think "Oh, he meant 'Going All Yonkers'."
Say 'I have bombs' in an airport and you'll rise suspicion, even if it means 'I have big old manly boobs'.

Suspicion in real world does not mean shit.
Suspicion alone does not even warrant an ID check or a search.

Freedom of speech assures that I can use any name I want on nexuiz server as long as it is not some kind of insult or something (OBL=GAY is kinda weird tho).

In a nuthsell:

If you do not agree that any player can use a name like "I am aimbotting" on any nexuiz server, your communist ass should be sodomized with a 26inch retractable barbed liberal baton.

Can someone please ban this doofus already?

alpha wrote:Suspicion alone does not even warrant an ID check or a search.

Yes it does apparently. Cause if some kind of security suspects something wrong is going on, you bet your ass they are going to look it up and do an ID check if and all. They do it all the time.
However, that has nothing to do with anything. What took place here was apparently a misunderstanding, and a good reason for one at that. Meaning that bottom line, Oblivion had all the right to suspect it was towards him this was aimed at.
Also, the admins, masters and the maintainers of a server has the power and right to decide what happens there and what is allowed.
If someone changes his name to 'I am aimbotting', don't you think that also rise suspicion? Sure, you are entitled to freedom of speech and whatever, but be prepared for the consequences if you provoke or do something that rise suspicion. That is a common sense which doesn't seem to apply to you.

ai wrote:

alpha wrote:Suspicion alone does not even warrant an ID check or a search.

Yes it does apparently. Cause if some kind of security suspects something wrong is going on, you bet your ass they are going to look it up and do an ID check if and all. They do it all the time.
However, that has nothing to do with anything. What took place here was apparently a misunderstanding, and a good reason for one at that. Meaning that bottom line, Oblivion had all the right to suspect it was towards him this was aimed at.
Also, the admins, masters and the maintainers of a server has the power and right to decide what happens there and what is allowed.
If someone changes his name to 'I am aimbotting', don't you think that also rise suspicion? Sure, you are entitled to freedom of speech and whatever, but be prepared for the consequences if you provoke or do something that rise suspicion. That is a common sense which doesn't seem to apply to you.

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

no seriously read that part about baton very thoroughly

Enough already. (hi, im back)

Welcome back

Nothing is right, nothing is wrong. It just is.

This thread will now be used to post funny pictures

It's good to see trolls stick together, that's at least one thing left to be proud of in this community :>

Oblivion has proudly proclaimed that he is a homosexual. He then bans people that calls him homosexual on a server? That is crazy.

He even uses the word "gay))" himself. To then ban someone else for using it is discriminatory... it is like saying "since you are not part of a Protected Class, you are barred from full freedom of expression and speech". I guess it only works one way... and that creates the resentment that the Protected Class is often complaining about.

I'm gay)) and I'm an artist,

Where is Oblivion btw? Why did he suddenly leave us and not make us any sectional models? He said he wouldn't make things if certain things were not done. Those things _were_ done, yet he still doesn't make things? Cmon...