Putting [bot] in bot names

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Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:21 pm

  • I know a lot of people requested this but I think it ruins the point of bots. The idea is that they can mimic a human player and putting something in their name just gives it away.

    It does not help to increase the number of players playing Nexuiz, it will decrease it. Picture this situation:

    A new player is browsing for a server. They see a server with a nice low ping with 4 players on it and join. They then have hours of happy gaming without really realising that they are playing against bots.

    If the server had [bot] in the name of all of the bots, the same new player would join the server, see they're all bots and leave. They might do the same on lots of servers, think no real people play the game and so go and play something else. That shouldn't be happening so [bot] in botnames should not be on by default.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:51 pm

  • Make it an svar as to what prefixes their name, if anything? That's how CS:S does it. You can put in bot or bob or idiot or nothing at all that way.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:53 pm

  • If you want x you know where to find it, but yeah.. a var is nice, just dont make it default.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:04 pm

  • That feature will be in Nexuiz 2.0. But there are 2 cvars, bot_prefix & bot_suffix, so if you set both to an empty string, the bot will just have it's usual name.
    However bot_prefix is set to "[BOT]" by default (it's disabled in campaign mode). I you think it ruins the illusion, just put [BOT] infront of your nick and you'll have another one :P
    But bots are clearly distinguishable from humans by the way they play, so i don't see a problem there.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:24 pm

  • I only know 2 or 3 servers with bots.. and the name pre/suffix are customizable.. i think its even in the example server.cfg included with Nexuiz 2.0 so i do not see this as a problem.
    :) Hmm irc and forum makes replys slow ;)
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:29 pm

  • KadaverJack wrote:just put [BOT] infront of your nick and you'll have another one :P

    I'd thought of this. Probably won't convince too many people.
    KadaverJack wrote:But bots are clearly distinguishable from humans by the way they play, so i don't see a problem there.

    They are easy to distinguish once you've played the game. A first time player would not notice. Anyone who is at the stage of being able to tell will also probably know all of the available names for bots. If an experienced player can tell the difference between players and bots then there is no need for a [BOT] suffix.
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:40 am

  • Did that "minplayers" functionality ever make it into 2.0?
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:44 am

  • Yes it did, but also the bots get kicked when no player is on the server by default. Thats to lower cpu usage. There is an option to make them stay if thats really needed though.
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:46 am

  • vars?
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:49 am

  • tChr wrote:vars?

    "minplayers" :P
    (plus the usual bot_* cvars & skill)
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:14 am

  • esteel wrote:I think the one tChr wanted to know was (though you are right its a bot_ variable) but this way tChr does not have to search for it :)
    set bot_join_empty 0/1

    Yep.. and you get to post another entry :D
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:16 pm

  • tChr wrote:Yep.. and you get to post another entry :D

    And so do you... :-P
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  • Lardarse wrote:
    tChr wrote:Yep.. and you get to post another entry :D

    And so do you... :-P


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