Trouble with a geforce fx 5500 256mb

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Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:05 pm

  • I have been having problems with my geforce 5500. When Playing nexuiz I get poor fps on any map. I have tried lowering cvars, yet not much increases my fps. I was wondering if you had any advice. I have been having this problems with other opengl games as well. In one opengl game I could get as high as 303 fps in this one tunnel (on highest graphics), however in the same tunnel i only get 125 fps now (on lowest graphics). So in that game as soon as someone starts shooting at me my fps drops below 10. I've tried adjusting various options to try to improve my fps, overclocking, and updating drivers, but nothing rly helps. I even tried using a different harddrive with windows on it, and it lags just as much. This tells me that it hardware related. :/
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:48 pm

  • Maybe you should know that your GF5500 is just like a decently overclocked Geforce FX5200. Sorry but you can't expect very good framerates with that one. If your computer is as old as the card, maybe there's another two things that slow you down like less than 512MB RAM and a not-too-powerful CPU.

    I'd suggest you to use the presets file "low.cfg" by adding + exec low.cfg to the command line of your desktop link.

    Or start the game, open the console and type exec low.cfg [enter] and then vid_restart [enter].
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:29 am

  • my computer is 5 years old, and wasn't rly good enough to run xp (even tho it came with a copy...). I am using r_showsurfaces 1 right now, and its rly fun playing like that, but the only problem is i can't tell teammates apart from enemies so it says "you moron! you just fragged a teammate" (or something like that) every 5 seconds... any ideas?

    Also I know that the 5500 isn't a good graphics card anymore , but it was the best one i could find for a pci only motherboard (I don't buy ATI graphics cards anymore after one of mine fried after just one month of use... without overclocking it, and they woudn't replace it). Anyway I was just asking if anyone had any idea about why my graphics card would for no obvious reason start putting out lower fps. Unless of course its just because it is getting old, which would be a more obvious reason for the lower fps.

    thanks for replying :)
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:23 am

  • RENZ0 wrote:my computer is 5 years old, and wasn't rly good enough to run xp (even tho it came with a copy...). I am using r_showsurfaces 1 right now, and its rly fun playing like that, but the only problem is i can't tell teammates apart from enemies so it says "you moron! you just fragged a teammate" (or something like that) every 5 seconds... any ideas?

    Your teammates have a sign above their head, that should be noticeable even with r_showsurfaces:
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:54 pm

  • In one opengl game I could get as high as 303 fps in this one tunnel (on highest graphics), however in the same tunnel i only get 125 fps now (on lowest graphics).


    Could you post your full system specifications (cpu, memory, os) then (when the other game worked well) and the specifications you have now now and also the modifications that occured during this time (like reinstalling the os or hardware issues / changes) ? I still think it's rather weird that it worked back then but not now.
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:47 pm

  • KadaverJack wrote:
    RENZ0 wrote:my computer is 5 years old, and wasn't rly good enough to run xp (even tho it came with a copy...). I am using r_showsurfaces 1 right now, and its rly fun playing like that, but the only problem is i can't tell teammates apart from enemies so it says "you moron! you just fragged a teammate" (or something like that) every 5 seconds... any ideas?

    Your teammates have a sign above their head, that should be noticeable even with r_showsurfaces:
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    Last night I was playing, and I noticed a little gray square above their head. I finally realized that this meant that they were on my team. However it does not look anything like the one in your pic.

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    System Information
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    Time of this report: 2/25/2007, 15:40:27
    Machine name: TEMPSETUP
    Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
    System Model: Dimension 2400
    BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
    Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz
    Memory: 1022MB RAM
    Page File: 552MB used, 1908MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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    Display Devices
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    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
    Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Chip type: GeForce FX 5500
    DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
    Display Memory: 256.0 MB
    Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
    Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
    Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
    Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English)
    DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 10/22/2006 12:22:00, 4527488 bytes

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    Sound Devices
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    Description: Sound Blaster Audigy


    I noticed that I was getting low fps about 6 months ago. I may have updated my graphics drivers around then. However around that time I do remember one my memory sticks failing, and replacing it with a new 512mb ddr2 stick. since last month I have been using another harddrive and have started over (I lost all my data, because my old got damaged... after i kicked the computer :oops: )
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:57 pm

  • Perhaps a stupid question... and I perhaps just missed this information in the previous posts... but you have installed the drivers from nvidia.com? The ones coming with Windows are complete and utter crap.
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:27 pm

  • SavageX wrote:Perhaps a stupid question... and I perhaps just missed this information in the previous posts... but you have installed the drivers from nvidia.com? The ones coming with Windows are complete and utter crap.

    I guess the main problem is, that he has a PCI card. Without texture compression, the PCI bus might not be able to provide enough memory bandwidth.

    RENZ0 wrote:Last night I was playing, and I noticed a little gray square above their head. I finally realized that this meant that they were on my team. However it does not look anything like the one in your pic.

    Since you are using r_showsurfaces, you can set the texture quality to good or best, so you'll be able to recognize that bubble.
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:40 pm

  • well I can tell you my motherboard is complete crap, but that doesn't answer my question though. Why am I getting lower fps then before? I have asked on many forums, and in IMs, but no one has a real answer.
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Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:48 pm

  • KadaverJack wrote:I guess the main problem is, that he has a PCI card.


    Well, honestly, this is just not possible. Do you really think that's possible???? :shock: Nonono, there never has been any PCI card with 256MB RAM! I'm sure! Even Dell wouldn't dare to sell such a crap.

    I rather think this Computer is completely missing its mainboard drivers, or something else really important is missing. Why don't I see any information about the chipset?
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Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:59 pm

  • RENZ0 >> Could you try the opengl game you told us about without the new ram stick installed, just to see if it isn't malfunctioning or something? :wink:

    The rest looks ok if you ask me. And since you recently reinstalled the OS I'm pretty sure it's not that (for now at least).

    It could also be the MB drivers, as Urmel pointed out...
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Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:10 pm

  • Urmel... wrote:
    KadaverJack wrote:I guess the main problem is, that he has a PCI card.


    Well, honestly, this is just not possible. Do you really think that's possible???? :shock: Nonono, there never has been any PCI card with 256MB RAM! I'm sure! Even Dell wouldn't dare to sell such a crap.

    I rather think this Computer is completely missing its mainboard drivers, or something else really important is missing. Why don't I see any information about the chipset?


    http://shopper.cnet.com/XFX_GeForce_FX_ ... 70445.html

    More memory is a more important with a low speed bus like pci tho. However its rather unlikely that the machine lacks agp, unless its a matx board.

    If it really is a pci card i guess the dreadfully low pci bandwidth is the main problem, so making sure that as much as possible of the textures can get uploaded to the cards ram is the #1 prio, that mean turning the texture quality down with picmip #

    Do we have an estimate on how much texture memory nexuiz usually needs? anyways start with "exec low.cfg" then turn picmip to some ridiculously high value like 6, then do a vid_restart. if things work better then try gradually lowering the picmip until preformace drops
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:11 pm

  • Okay okay, hahaha, nice, and Dell originally put a PCI card like that into that box? OMFG bastards :D

    But still, since our friend's box was running better in former times (like he posted), still there must be something wrong, and this must be a missing driver. And I guess it's a chipset driver. :?

    RENZO, would you please post the service tag number of yer Dell so I can take a look on Dell's support sites?
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:16 pm

  • Urmel... wrote:Okay okay, hahaha, nice, and Dell originally put a PCI card like that into that box? OMFG bastards :D

    But still, since our friend's box was running better in former times (like he posted), still there must be something wrong, and this must be a missing driver. And I guess it's a chipset driver. :?


    Who said the card came with the computer? I installed it myself:\ ( Also I have picmip at 10 already. In the opengl game I was talking about, I have r_rmse set to 22 (higher would make the command map, and my crosshair distorted). I'll try to see how my computer proforms without the stick of ram.

    anyway, even though I am still going to look for the issue with this computer I am going to be building a new computer in 3 weeks. I am getting 5,000 dollars to do sO.O
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:45 am

  • RENZ0 wrote:anyway, even though I am still going to look for the issue with this computer I am going to be building a new computer in 3 weeks. I am getting 5,000 dollars to do sO.O


    lucky bastard :lol:
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  • =p
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