Xm4n wrote:Well, it seems that I stirred up some responses here. First off, I am not 14, I do have a job and make good money and in the 20's. I have priorities in life. Second off, I am not from TX, just moved here from Maryland. The statement that Ed made about top of the live video cards seems to immature. A top notch video card can put you over the top for some years. not 20 years as it seems like Ed implied. a year to 2 years seems proficient. Hottest FPS games are awesome and having a top notch video card can max out any settings that the FPS game can throw at it. So, for a true gamer/enthusiast, top notch components are a must, if they have the money. And if they dont, they would almost certainly have the motivation for it and find a way to get it. Looks like Ed might be jealous that he does not have the top notch parts (boo hoo) So he is stuck to his current rig. Think he is trying to sound smart and efficient, in which we all know that he is NOT. Stop trying to be fundamentally sound Ed, and I implore you to join us!!! And stop being a twat and sissy and start buying some real components that do justice!!!

What? Ed is just making a point, you're the one being immature, and forcing your views on other people. Also, if top of the line video cards are so necessary for game enthusiasts, why do people still play Quake III Arena (or Quake II, for that matter)?

Lee_Stricklin wrote:

Juppy wrote:^HT is HyperThreading....One physical core and one logical core. Kinda like the new Nehalem core which is 4 physical cores and 4 logical cores O_O

Btw, nice deal you got there for the DDR1 RAM. There are much more expensive than DDR2 RAM >,> which doesn't make sense.

Yeah, DDR1 RAM is so much slower (I think mine is like 266MHz) than DDR2 RAM so it really doesn't make sense for DDR2 to be so much cheaper.

DDR2 is easier fabricate in comparison to DDR due to a smaller die and lower voltage, therefore lower creation cost and higher yield.

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Xm4n wrote:... A top notch video card can put you over the top for some years. ... a year to 2 years seems proficient. ...

Given 'top-notch' defined as best at the moment, 'top-notch' will only be top-notch for a gap between release cycles.

Multiple generational upgrades will be more efficient and effective than a monotonous, 'top-notch' upgrade, due to technological advancements, for which dated upgrades cannot benefit from.

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Xm4n wrote:... not 20 years as it seems like Ed implied. ...

I challenge you to disclose the quoted passage[s] for which you have interpreted as so.

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Xm4n wrote:... Hottest FPS games are awesome and having a top notch video card can max out any settings that the FPS game can throw at it. ...

Xm4n wrote:... So, for a true gamer/enthusiast, top notch components are a must, if they have the money. ...

For objective integrity, a personal preference should never be expressed in the form of a definite, generalized statement.

The assumption 'true gamers' regard graphical detail with great admiration is flawed as a gamer, by definition, is one who plays games, which in turn, by definition, is an activity which conforms to rules, rules indifferent to whichever medium they are presented upon.

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Xm4n wrote:... And if they dont, they would almost certainly have the motivation for it and find a way to get it ...

Assume nothing, not everyone may think as so.

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Xm4n wrote:

Ed wrote:... There are no top of the line graphics cards I want to buy. There haven't been for many years. Why? They're all horrid. Big, noisy, power guzzley, hot and within 6 months it's going to be out of date so you'll have to buy another so that you can maintain your status as a village idiot. ...

... Think he [sic] is trying to sound smart and efficient, in which we all know that he is NOT ...

[This one answers itself.]

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Xm4n wrote:Well, it seems that I stirred up some responses here. First off, I am not 14, I do have a job and make good money and in the 20's. I have priorities in life. Second off, I am not from TX, just moved here from Maryland. The statement that Ed made about top of the live video cards seems to immature. A top notch video card can put you over the top for some years. not 20 years as it seems like Ed implied. a year to 2 years seems proficient. Hottest FPS games are awesome and having a top notch video card can max out any settings that the FPS game can throw at it. So, for a true gamer/enthusiast, top notch components are a must, if they have the money. And if they dont, they would almost certainly have the motivation for it and find a way to get it. Looks like Ed might be jealous that he does not have the top notch parts (boo hoo) So he is stuck to his current rig. Think he is trying to sound smart and efficient, in which we all know that he is NOT. Stop trying to be fundamentally sound Ed, and I implore you to join us!!! And stop being a twat and sissy and start buying some real components that do justice!!!

Yeah Ed, and once you get those components, sign up to gaming forums and be a complete cunt because your hardware is 1337 and everyone who doesn't have the latest components is a loser. If anyone tries to point out what a socially inept troll you've become and tell you that you don't need the latest stuff, that person must be jealous of your indisputable awesomeness and you should instantly unleash your new-found twatiness on him. After all, you've got more fps!

Oh, and move to Texas.

Xm4n wrote:Looks like Ed might be jealous that he does not have the top notch parts (boo hoo) So he is stuck to his current rig.

What, you'd like to see my computer? Yes, here's mine:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/vi ... highlight=
Not really many components I'd rather spend money on than the ones I went for.

Despite the low noise level you don't see me openly criticing anyone on this forum whose computer dares to break 30dB. I also play Nexuiz at Ultra details at 1920x1200 on a 24" monitor. You don't see me pouring scorn on those people who won't 'grow up and buy a proper monitor'. Now those people should really commit suicide, there's clearly no point in them living as their entire lifestyle is wasting precious natural resources that could be poured into making more high end consumer PC components.

Xm4n wrote:Think he is trying to sound smart and efficient, in which we all know that he is NOT.

Checks degree certificate, rereads employment history on CV, doubts 3rd party assumption heavily.

Xm4n wrote:I implore you to join us!!!

I would rather be anally violated with a spade than join your ilk in the mental asylum.

Edit:
Anyway, this is a thread about performance of different graphics cards under Nexuiz. Please lets get back on topic or if there really is merit in this retarded exchange, we can fork this thread off somewhere else.

So, how well does nexuiz work on an EeePC/other sub-notebook?

Just one point.. its not a very good idea to come into a forum and insult people in the only two posts you put online. If you are as grown up as you claim you should have learned to respect others and their ideas. Not even gamers need high class hardware and if people think they rather want low-power hardware and like efficient games thats just as good as people that like fullblown power and games that take advantage off.
Xm4n: Consider this an official warning, i will not accept much more of your insults.

Psychcf wrote:So, how well does nexuiz work on an EeePC/other sub-notebook?

Considering these specs of the latest eeePC1000:

- 1 GB RAM DDR2-533/667
- 1.6 GHz Intel Atom, 45nm Diamondville N270
- Integrated GMA 950

(which look quite similar to an average MacBook) I expect it to be enough to play it in low to medium settings without major drawbacks. These Intel-cards seem to play World of Warcraft, so it should be okay.
Though I'm really no expert on this stuff.

Hey guys...just thought I would throw in my system and the results I'm getting:

Core2Duo E4300 overclocked to 2.53GHZ per core

2 GB RAM

GeForce 7600GT

320 GB Harddrive

Windows XP SP3


On the "High" setting at 1280x1024, I usually get around 200+ FPS from a well made map. Of course this varies depending on the map. Some maps bring that down to around 120 FPS.

On the "Ultra" setting at 1280x1024, I get around 70-130 FPS, again depending on the map.

This system was built in May of 2007 for $600 in parts for Newegg. Now it could be built for MUCH less. It's obviously a killer machine for running Nexuiz.

I have a 2.4ghz quad core w/8800 geforce 512mb 4gb system memory and the game gets up to 700 fps is that normal. and averages around 350 fps.

Esteel: Did I ever insult you? What threat are you bringing upon me?
Lets discuss in another medium instead of here.

All others who negatively criticize me: Go to an official national LAN party and you will find that my posts are true for the hardcore gamer and even the regular gamer (your interpretation is up to you). Lets not be jealous of the parts that one has.
If you are a true gamer, you know what my posts mean and for you posers, don't think and act like you know this, unless you have substantial proof.
Again, lets not "test" and "gang up" on me. You should tread softly, unless you are willing to accept the results from there.

Xm4n wrote:What threat are you bringing upon me?

Captain Obvious tells me that forum moderators generally tend to threaten with bans.

Xm4n wrote:Lets discuss in another medium instead of here.

Yes, better still please just leave this to a technical discussion of hardware that works well/not so well with Nexuiz and we won't join you in any other channel as we just don't want to talk to you at all.

Xm4n wrote:Go to an official national LAN party and you will find that my posts are true for the hardcore gamer and even the regular gamer (your interpretation is up to you). Lets not be jealous of the parts that one has.

...your point?

Xm4n wrote:If you are a true gamer, you know what my posts mean and for you posers,

True gamer? You seem to talk about this group as if it is an important demographic mutually exclusive from any other group in society. As for 'posers' it's pretty obvious that you are the poser in this discussion as you are the one making a big thing about a technological purchase.

Xm4n wrote:don't think and act like you know this, unless you have substantial proof

Well I could quote all of your previous posts but I think everyone else here can just scroll up to see how much of an arse you've already made of yourself.

Xm4n wrote:Again, lets not "test" and "gang up" on me. You should tread softly, unless you are willing to accept the results from there.

Diplomacy fail.

i use FX5200 with nvidia z tweaked drivers for the best performance posible and extreme tweaked at 400/547 mhz + i extra fan for cooling the graphic card cuz its getin hot and i prety much can run high setings well thats just me i know how to make shit = gold sometimes or just a sick dude who risks a lot

geforce mx 400 run with about 40 fps on normal settings without any players, with players it runs on 50-60fps with lowest settings
geforce 6600 GT runs well on most maps (around 100fps) with normal settings and no players, with players you need low settings
geforce 9600 GT runs most of the maps are playable with ultra settings and several players (average fps about 100)
geforce 260 GTX runs almost everything fine with everything at its maximum. even during online play it works.


my experiences

Linux:
- Radeon HD4850 with latest fglrx. Runs game great on high settings @ 1680x1050. Ultimate is possible, but frames suffer on some maps (usually on custom ones).
- Radeon HD4850 with latest mesa and radeon git code. Game runs at an acceptable pace at high settings. Must turn off GLSL, AA, Bloom/HDR, and Blur effects, otherwise game can crash or turn into a slide show. Some effects don't work or can cause the game to crash (reflective water does not render, Electro shots cause severe frame drops and can even crash the game, etc).
- Radeon 200M running latest git code. Runs but with lots of rendering issues. Previous versions of the game and driver used to work fine though, making the game semi-playable (10-25fps) for the most part (low settings @ 800x600).
- Radeon 9800pro running latest git code. Same as above. Previous drivers and versions of the game ran fine (medium @ 1024x768). Issues could be due to changes in the drivers (most likely), changes in the latest Nexuiz, or both.

I should point out that any fairly old posts here are useless, as the engine has changed a lot since e.g. the first post of this thread. Even from a few months ago, the engine has quite a few changes which would make a difference here... Perhaps an updated list is in order?

What is a filter and how does DTP software use filters to create a useable file ready for output.? This is a graphic art question like indesign, photoshop, and illustrator. I already know the definition of filter and what program use it.
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