is linux worth the trouble?

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Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:57 pm

  • hi
    i was told that linux is a better os for playing nexuiz on and i'm not sure if it's worth downloading this if i'm only going to use it to play nexuiz with, is it much better performance on linux ? also is it hard to run ?
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:02 am

  • Personally I dont think its worth. I find Linux to just be a complete hassle. If you are lazy in the slightest I wouldnt recommend it.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:33 am

  • yes, its really not worth it.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:50 am

  • To install linux only to play Nexuiz: no.
    To intsall linux to play Nexuiz, and maybe try it for other things: yes.
    To install linux and leave windows forever: depends on your goals, but usually YES.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:00 pm

  • Yes it is worth it, if you can accept that it IS different from Windows. Setting everything up and getting your hardware to work in Linux might not be that easy the first time, depending on what kind of hardware you have of course (everything might just work out of the box). Just use google if you end up having some problems, you'll probably find the problem has been answered somewhere already.

    If you decide to give it a shot, no matter how lazy you are: you should definitely learn how to use the terminal. In the end you might find that a lot of tasks are much more convenient, easier and faster through the terminal than using a GUI, and will regret the years you have wasted using Windoze :D
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:54 pm

  • Hey, fanatics! ;) he dident ask if theres hope for lunix as a desktop os, the question was is the possible performance gain (as i read it) was worth using Linux. To this, from my personal experience i have to say: No, i see no gain at all in general. With lowend/old machines or vista this may be a different story tough.
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Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:30 am

  • wubi is a no risk solution to dual booting your computer with ubuntu. It creates a virtual disk on your windows partition. It's a great introduction to Linux.


    I don't believe the people flaming Linux in this thread have spent enough time with it because distros like ubuntu REALLY AREN'T that troublesome. Any errors you come across, you can easily google and in fact, a large group of members within this community use it and are happy to answer your questions / help you along.
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Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:33 pm

  • If you're going to run Snow Leopard, maybe. I dual-booted Ubuntu on my MacBook just to play Nexuiz when I get Snow Leopard because it's performance on SL is so bad. It starts faster, but I didn't see a performance increase at all (maybe even saw a little decrease).
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:08 am

  • Linux is ROUGH! Stay away from it!!! lol clearly reverse psychology, bet you'll try it just cause I said that. lol

    For me, Linux IS worth the hassle. It was rough learning it and figuring out how to set stuff up, but once you figure it out you won't want to go back to Windows. After you learn how to make your system work with it and after you figure out how to run your stuff on it (which is different, but not harder most of the time) it'll be smooth sailing from there.

    MC SE7EN wrote:If you're going to run Snow Leopard, maybe. I dual-booted Ubuntu on my MacBook just to play Nexuiz when I get Snow Leopard because it's performance on SL is so bad. It starts faster, but I didn't see a performance increase at all (maybe even saw a little decrease).


    What video card do you have?
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:11 am

  • Lee_Stricklin wrote:Linux is ROUGH! Stay away from it!!! lol clearly reverse psychology, bet you'll try it just cause I said that. lol

    For me, Linux IS worth the hassle. It was rough learning it and figuring out how to set stuff up, but once you figure it out you won't want to go back to Windows. After you learn how to make your system work with it and after you figure out how to run your stuff on it (which is different, but not harder most of the time) it'll be smooth sailing from there.

    MC SE7EN wrote:If you're going to run Snow Leopard, maybe. I dual-booted Ubuntu on my MacBook just to play Nexuiz when I get Snow Leopard because it's performance on SL is so bad. It starts faster, but I didn't see a performance increase at all (maybe even saw a little decrease).


    What video card do you have?


    Don't even know... MacBook 4,1 - Late 2008... whatever comes stock..
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:05 am

  • It's not Macbook Pro is it? I'm looking up some specs right now, if we can find what your video card is then I can tell you one of the messier ways to install the latest driver. This isn't looking good at all, the only specs I've pulled up were for early 2008 regular Macbook. Ready for this? Intel GMA X3100 with up to 144MB shared (uses your system RAM for video memory instead of having it's own). If that is what your system has then you'd be lucky to get any 3D app made with in the last six years to run smoothly on decent settings. Once again, check to make sure your not using a Pro because the pro model actually has a usable video device for 3D apps.
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:33 pm

  • Lee_Stricklin wrote:It's not Macbook Pro is it? I'm looking up some specs right now, if we can find what your video card is then I can tell you one of the messier ways to install the latest driver. This isn't looking good at all, the only specs I've pulled up were for early 2008 regular Macbook. Ready for this? Intel GMA X3100 with up to 144MB shared (uses your system RAM for video memory instead of having it's own). If that is what your system has then you'd be lucky to get any 3D app made with in the last six years to run smoothly on decent settings. Once again, check to make sure your not using a Pro because the pro model actually has a usable video device for 3D apps.


    Nope, regular MacBook. And actually, Nexuz runs rather nicely in OS X (I get a decent framerate playing with all the fancy stuff turned off, which is recommend in the FAQ anyway, I believe). It's just the Linux side that doesn't run so well.
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:41 am

  • HELL YES, LINUX IS WORTH IT!!!
    Not just for nexuiz, but for all your computer needs.
    Linux out performs winblows hands down....
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:00 pm

  • Tried Nexuiz on Windows. Suffice it to say I'll be sticking with Snow Leopard for Nexuiz.
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Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:03 pm

  • Strictly using it on my gaming rig (yes I run Windows games on this) for about a year now I'm now asking the question "was Windows worth the trouble?" every time I get behind the desk of someone else's computer. I find Windows HARDER to use now do to it being so unforgiving. Sure on Linux it may be a bitch to tweak stuff that wasn't intended to run on it in the first place, but at least the operating system stays the hell out of my way and let's me do what I want with it. Usually when I create a WINE prefix in PlayOnLinux and tweak something, all I have to do is put a launcher in my menu and forget about it. To me that aint too big of a hassle. Install, tweak, place shortcut, and forget about it, That's the hardest part about Linux for me. Not a big deal at all as you can usually pull up the WINE app DB and see what other people did or use a script on PlayOnLinux to do the hard work for you. Windows on the other hand it seems the older the program, the least likely it is to work; it's losing it's capability to run legacy stuff whereas Linux can run most new stuff in addition to handling legacy programs (Unreal Tournament's Windows client for example runs best in WINE) better than Windows XP and above. On top of that Vista and 7 get in my way constantly bugging me about permissions where Ubuntu and other user friendly distros are subtle about it usually only doing it when your installing off the internet or updating a program. Linux has it's tricky points, but it's not nearly as annoying as Windows glass jaw that constantly has to be protected with anti-malware and it's annoying tendency to slow down over time in addition to losing compatibility with older software. To me it had it's learning curve, but once I got over it, I immediately purged my drive, installed Ubuntu (then 7.10) 64, and transferred my XP license to a friend who wanted it. I found Linux to be a fun family of operating systems with extremely low maintenance, high-performance, and high-level of reliability.

    Though put together sloppy, I hope this post will be of some help to somebody considering Linux. If you want to throw yourself at a Linux then I would recommend dual-booting your drive with both Windows and Ubuntu. If you become more experienced you may want to throw yourself at a more advanced distro. If you simply decide Linux isn't for you, then it may not be, but more than likely there is a distro out there that will suit you. Right now I'm running Linux Mint Gloria and I can honestly say this is the happiest I've ever been in front of a computer.
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:25 am

  • Yes, linux is worth the 'trouble'. Instead of running a window manager, running an alarm-clock, displaying the time, keeping track of what should be on the desktop... You simply login and use xterm for that session. type nexuiz and see an easy +10fps. How could you not want that? Ubuntu install involves clicking 'install' and waiting. Maybe you should try a live cd. Linux isn't what it was ten years ago, Windows is.
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:28 am

  • Rabbitbunny wrote:Yes, linux is worth the 'trouble'. Instead of running a window manager, running an alarm-clock, displaying the time, keeping track of what should be on the desktop... You simply login and use xterm for that session. type nexuiz and see an easy +10fps. How could you not want that? Ubuntu install involves clicking 'install' and waiting. Maybe you should try a live cd. Linux isn't what it was ten years ago, Windows is.



    I saw a -20ish fps when I used ubuntu
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  • MC SE7EN wrote:
    Rabbitbunny wrote:Yes, linux is worth the 'trouble'. Instead of running a window manager, running an alarm-clock, displaying the time, keeping track of what should be on the desktop... You simply login and use xterm for that session. type nexuiz and see an easy +10fps. How could you not want that? Ubuntu install involves clicking 'install' and waiting. Maybe you should try a live cd. Linux isn't what it was ten years ago, Windows is.



    I saw a -20ish fps when I used ubuntu


    And were you using xterm as a WM? It's available when you login, Look down at the bottom where it says 'SESSION: [GNOME|V]'. It's a drop-down. Select xterm.
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:03 am

  • Far as I'm concerned, apt-get is for people who are too lazy to find the install button.

    Granted, this is used primarily on Debian-based distros, but it still doesn't fit well with me.

    Windows is easy. Click click and it's done.

    When it comes to Nexuiz, just about everything has been prepared by the developers, you don't need to do a whole lot of tweaking or make things in advance, whether you're on Windows, Linux, Mac or any other OS that can run Nexuiz.

    If you're not a programmer or web developer, then you can stick to Windows if you want, though it might be useful to learn Linux, just for the hell of it.

    And honestly, I don't get people who somehow manage to screw up their Windows install, despite all the information that's out there. Several millions of people can do it, yet if one person complains, it's suddenly a reason to start bashing Windows a bit more >_>
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