A while ago we announced the first 2.3 test version (http://alientrap.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1591) now its time for the second test version!

All the issues from back then should be solved, there are new features, new bug fixes, new maps and more interesting stuff then ever before. Take a peak at it and report your finding, grapes or praise. A list of changes and download links are here: http://www.alientrap.org/devwiki/index. ... xuiz.Patch

Server admins should also install that file: http://141.2.16.3:7780/nex/files/waypoi ... es-0.6.pk3 and those settings to make sure older clients can connect:
sv_curl_defaulturl http://141.2.16.3:7780/nex/files/
sv_curl_serverpackages waypointsprites-0.6

geez, I almost forgot to post a problem I have here on my company PC:

when I open the console, I can hardly type any commands as my [space] key isn't recognized as such. Just happening on this one here, not at home, and I've no idea what's the reason. Silly me, I didn't tell my colleague next to me to try...

Couldn't find out exactly but I think it acts like a tab key or the [esc]. Quite funny. Nevertheless, I'm running the download of the new version now and I'm gonna have a try in about an hour when work is done

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bind "SPACE" "toggleconsole"

seems to be the problem, but only in the versions newer than 2.23 and now I know why I don't have that problem at home. I don't even know how that bind came into my config...

I do not know what I shall do now: I already have a sv_curl_defaulturl defined so that clients are able to download custom maps. What shall I do now with it?

Wow, this is a very bad release for me now.

In general, FPS have decreased. I did a timedemo for a selfcreated listenserver demo with 9 bots on aggressor. Results:
Nex v2.3 beta1:

result 2533 frames 10.0960000 seconds 250.8914422 fps, one-second min/avg/max: 179 251 360

Nex v2.3 beta2:

result 2533 frames 13.6870000 seconds 185.0661211 fps, one-second min/avg/max: 125 185 210

div0: NO, I'm not that stupid. I did "r_picmipworld 1". Other than that, all settings are the same (copied config/autoexec file)

Spawnsounds are very bad too, since they are the same as the teleporter sound, which is really confusing. Either another sound, or disable it by default pls.

AH, and btw: tdem demo1 -> Nexuiz crashes after half a sec of playing the demo.

Systemspecs: P4 3.2 Ghz, 1 GB Ram, ATI x850 Pro
Nex settings for benchmarking/playing: very low settings in general, gl_picmip 4, gl_vbo 1

GreEn`mArine wrote:I do not know what I shall do now: I already have a sv_curl_defaulturl defined so that clients are able to download custom maps. What shall I do now with it?

Either mirror waypointsprites-0.6.pk3 or use a curl_urls.txt file as described in Nexuiz/Docs/mapdownload.txt

KadaverJack wrote:or use a curl_urls.txt file as described in Nexuiz/Docs/mapdownload.txt

Thats what I did. Thx. .de PlanetNexuiz server is running with beta2 now.

Oh, by the way: If this test release happens to be slower than the previous one you may want to try to toy around with the new r_depthtest cvar (valid values 0, 1 and 2).


edit: I mean r_depthfirst

r_depthtest 0/1/2 combined with r_restart doesn't yield any improvements!

GreEn`mArine wrote:r_depthtest 0/1/2 combined with r_restart doesn't yield any improvements!

there is no cvar r_depthtest, it's r_depthfirst

KadaverJack wrote:

GreEn`mArine wrote:r_depthtest 0/1/2 combined with r_restart doesn't yield any improvements!

there is no cvar r_depthtest, it's r_depthfirst

My, am I an idiot.

Oupsie, sorry.

SavageX wrote:My, am I an idiot.
Oupsie, sorry.

No there is a variable r_BLABLAdepthtest in the name.. but normal people should never need that variable

Guys, I am able to use autocompletion. You are right, it's called r_depthfirst, but what I did was to enter "r_dep<tab" and set the values for it, without further looking at it because there was only one matching variable.

and as you might probably already guess, "r_depthfirst" didn't yield any improvements, since this was the cvar I was testing.

esteel wrote:but normal people should never need that variable

yeah, sorry for not being normal

And what suggestions do you have to fix the "tdem demo1" ending in a total crash of Nexuiz ?

I've had some weird graphics corruption with this version on higher settings running under Linux. Will try and get some more useful description.

GreEn`mArine wrote:And what suggestions do you have to fix the "tdem demo1" ending in a total crash of Nexuiz ?

Please send div0 a backtrace
http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?p=15396#15396

I updated that download links to point the 20070511 builds as the old ones had some problems with prediction, resulting in bad online play..

my issues with FPS were resolved! It was r_bloom being enabled because the normal.cfg changed that value to 1! So be aware to switch it off again if you upgrade and reuse your old configs

UPDATE: there are, unfortunatly, still issues. Maps like faacing worlds have a major performance drop (at times even only 50% FPS): I found out that revision 7154 is the one that is slow, 7153 is still fast for me. I wote that to LordHavoc

Well thats why i keep my own high and low config files, the ones in Nexuiz can change.. noone ever said they will stay like they were in old versions and indeed it was tried to make them looking as good as possible even at lower settings. For example lower settings now use r_flashblend to create fake lights on rockets and explosions which looks nice but can be quite annoying for 'real' playing.. My lowconfig in the Nexuiz - Performance forum tries to keep it down to really low settings for those that 'need' it

esteel wrote:For example lower settings now use r_flashblend to create fake lights on rockets and explosions which looks nice but can be quite annoying for 'real' playing..

It's gl_flashblend. And I really want that to be zero on all cfg's or 1 only on the higher presets cfg's. And low.cfg user normal picmip... it should use lowest picmip.

And for those poor souls that like that effect can enable it. And we should also add that effect to the menu.

why the !@#$% should low.cfg use even lower picmip? Even in default settings Nexuiz uses around 128mb graphics ram now in 2.3.. Cards with even less memory should in general have slight problems and i think in 2.3 low.cfg requires only 70mb of graphics ram which should be available on all powerful enough cards..

well, 70MB is exactly 6MB more than most of the many Geforce2 users and Laptop owners have and iirc this is what those cards have available, no? Correct me pleasre if I'm wrong.

Maybe that's why the !@#$% low.cfg should use lower picmip.

Urmel, once I get home, I'll give you my autoexec.cfg for that pc I've made the low end benchmark.

well, I don't really need, for I got meself ah GF8600GTS today eh eheh

Just trying to understand esteel's "why the !@#$%" reaction, I could be completely misunderstanding the whole discussion.

But I'd like to have it anyway, to test it on my Dell lappy with that old 64MB Radeon 9000 mobile. Just to show it to other ppl for advertize

Back to topic, is that correct: if 2.3 on low.cfg requires 70MB of the VGA's RAM, it won't be possible to run that on a machine with a 64MB graphics adaper? If it's like that, 64MB should be the desireable target...

Here are the cfg's:
config.cfg

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bind "TAB" "+showscores"
bind "ENTER" ""
bind "ESCAPE" "togglemenu"
bind "SPACE" "+jump"
bind "-" "sizedown"
bind "0" "impulse 210"
bind "1" ""
bind "2" ""
bind "3" ""
bind "4" ""
bind "5" ""
bind "6" ""
bind "7" ""
bind "8" ""
bind "9" ""
bind "=" "sizeup"
bind "`" "toggleconsole"
bind "a" "+crouch"
bind "c" "impulse 2"
bind "d" "+back"
bind "e" "+forward"
bind "f" "+moveright"
bind "g" "impulse 4"
bind "h" "impulse 3"
bind "i" "+show_info"
bind "q" "impulse 1"
bind "r" "impulse 9"
bind "s" "+moveleft"
bind "t" "impulse 7"
bind "u" "impulse 6"
bind "v" "impulse 8"
bind "w" ""
bind "y" "messagemode2"
bind "z" "impulse 5"
bind "~" "toggleconsole"
bind "BACKSPACE" "dropweapon"
bind "UPARROW" "+forward"
bind "DOWNARROW" "+back"
bind "LEFTARROW" "+moveleft"
bind "RIGHTARROW" ""
bind "SHIFT" ""
bind "F1" "vyes"
bind "F2" "vno"
bind "F3" "spec"
bind "F4" "ready"
bind "F5" "menu_showteamselect"
bind "F6" "team_auto"
bind "F10" "quit"
bind "F11" "disconnect"
bind "F12" "screenshot"
bind "PAUSE" "pause"
bind "KP_INS" "messagemode"
bind "KP_END" "say_team quad soon (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_DOWNARROW" "say_team item free x:%x (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_PGDN" "say_team took item (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_LEFTARROW" "say_team negative (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_5" "say_team help me (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_RIGHTARROW" "say_team enemy seen (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_HOME" "say_team defending (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_UPARROW" "say_team roaming (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_PGUP" "say_team attacking (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_DEL" "messagemode2"
bind "KP_SLASH" "say_team dropped flag (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_MULTIPLY" "say_team killed flagcarrier (l:%l h:%h a:%a w:%w)"
bind "KP_MINUS" "say hi / good luck and have fun"
bind "KP_PLUS" "say good game"
bind "KP_ENTER" "say :-) / nice one"
bind "MOUSE1" "+attack"
bind "MOUSE2" "+attack2"
bind "MOUSE3" "+zoom"
bind "MWHEELUP" "weapnext"
bind "MWHEELDOWN" "weapprev"
bind "MOUSE4" "weaplast"
bind "MOUSE5" "+hook"
in_bind 7 "0" "impulse 10"
in_bind 7 "1" "impulse 1"
in_bind 7 "2" "impulse 2"
in_bind 7 "3" "impulse 3"
in_bind 7 "4" "impulse 4"
in_bind 7 "5" "impulse 5"
in_bind 7 "6" "impulse 6"
in_bind 7 "7" "impulse 7"
in_bind 7 "8" "impulse 8"
in_bind 7 "9" "impulse 9"
in_bind 7 "KP_INS" "impulse 10"
in_bind 7 "KP_END" "impulse 1"
in_bind 7 "KP_DOWNARROW" "impulse 2"
in_bind 7 "KP_PGDN" "impulse 3"
in_bind 7 "KP_LEFTARROW" "impulse 4"
in_bind 7 "KP_5" "impulse 5"
in_bind 7 "KP_RIGHTARROW" "impulse 6"
in_bind 7 "KP_HOME" "impulse 7"
in_bind 7 "KP_UPARROW" "impulse 8"
in_bind 7 "KP_PGUP" "impulse 9"
seta _alientrap_net_banlist ""
_cl_color "67"
_cl_name "^2[LDB]^7C.Brutail"
_cl_playermodel "models/player/nexus.zym"
seta _nex_maxplayers "8"
bgmvolume "0"
seta bot_prefix "[BOT]"
seta bot_suffix ""
seta bot_usemodelnames "0"
cl_autodemo "1"
seta cl_autoswitch "0"
cl_bobmodel "0"
cl_decals "0"
seta cl_hidewaypoints "0"
seta cl_nogibs "1"
cl_noplayershadow "1"
cl_particles_blood "0"
cl_particles_bubbles "0"
cl_particles_bulletimpacts "0"
cl_particles_explosions_smokes "0"
cl_particles_explosions_sparks "0"
cl_particles_quality ".1"
cl_particles_rain "0"
cl_particles_size ".5"
cl_particles_smoke "0"
cl_particles_snow "0"
cl_particles_sparks "0"
seta cl_playerdetailreduction "0"
seta cl_shownames "1"
seta cl_zoomfactor "5"
seta cl_zoomspeed "3.5"
crosshair "7"
crosshair_size "1.500000"
fov "115"
seta fraglimit_override "-1"
seta g_balance_cloaked_alpha "0.25"
seta g_balance_teams "0"
seta g_balance_teams_complain "0"
seta g_balance_teams_force "0"
seta g_balance_teams_prevent_imbalance "0"
seta g_campaign_index "0"
seta g_campaign_name ""
seta g_ctf_capture_limit "-1"
seta g_domination_point_limit "-1"
seta g_friendlyfire "0.0"
seta g_grappling_hook "0"
seta g_keyhunt_point_limit "-1"
seta g_maplist "'dm_silvercity''dm_aneurysm''dm_basement''dm_bleach''dm_bluesky''dm_bloodprison''dm_darkzone''dm_downer''dm_evilspace''dm_farewell''dm_runningman''dm_runningman_1on1remix''dm_silvercity''dm_skyway''dm_slimepit''dm_soylent''dm_starship''dm_stormkeep''dm_toxic''dm_warfare'"
seta g_maplist_index "0"
seta g_maplist_selectrandom "0"
seta g_maplist_shuffle "0"
seta g_mirrordamage "0.2"
seta g_runematch_point_limit "-1"
seta g_tdm_teams "2"
gl_picmip "5"
gl_polyblend "0"
m_filter "1"
r_bloom "0"
r_coronas "0"
r_depthfirst "0"
r_dynamic "0"
r_glsl "0"
r_glsl_deluxemapping "0"
r_picmipworld "1"
r_shadow_gloss "0"
r_shadow_realtime_dlight "0"
r_sky "0"
r_waterscroll "0"
r_waterwarp "0"
saved1 "0.246269"
savedgamecfg "921015321096565557"
seta scmenu_menu_height "768"
seta scmenu_menu_width "1024"
seta scmenu_mouse_speed "1"
seta scmenu_querystring ""
scr_conalpha "0.7"
sensitivity "10"
showfps "1"
snd_staticvolume "0"
seta sv_defaultcharacter "0"
seta sv_defaultplayermodel "models/player/nexus.zym"
seta sv_defaultplayerskin "0"
seta sv_eventlog_files_counter "0"
seta sv_precacheitems "0"
seta sv_precacheplayermodels "1"
seta sv_precacheweapons "0"
seta sv_servermodelsonly "1"
seta sv_spectate "1"
seta teamplay_default "4"
seta timelimit_maxovertime "5"
seta timelimit_override "5"
v_contrast "1.100000"
v_gamma "1.350000"
vid_bitsperpixel "16"
vid_height "480"
vid_width "640"
seta vid_x11_display ""
volume "1"


autoexec.cfg:

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cl_bobcycle 0
cl_bobmodel 0
cl_itembobheight 0
cl_rollangle 0
v_kicktime 0

cl_decals 0
cl_stainmaps 0

cl_nogibs 1
cl_noplayershadow 1

cl_particles_blood 0
cl_particles_bubbles 0
cl_particles_bulletimpacts 0
cl_particles_explosions_bubbles 0
cl_particles_explosions_shell 0
cl_particles_explosions_smokes 0
cl_particles_explosions_sparks 0
cl_particles_quality .1
cl_particles_rain 0
cl_particles_size .5
cl_particles_smoke 0
cl_particles_snow 0
cl_particles_sparks 0

gl_picmip 5
gl_texture_anisotropy 0
r_detailtextures 0
r_picmipworld 1

gl_flashblend 0
gl_polyblend 0

r_shadow_bumpscale_basetexture 0
r_shadow_bumpscale_bumpmap 0

r_sky 0

r_waterscroll 0
r_waterwarp 0

r_bloom 0
r_coronas 0
r_dynamic 0
r_depthfirst 0
r_glsl_deluxemapping 0
r_glsl_offsetmapping 0
r_glsl_offsetmapping_reliefmapping 0
r_hdr 0
r_shadow_gloss 0
r_shadow_glsl_offsetmapping 0
r_shadow_realtime_dlight 0
r_shadow_realtime_dlight_shadows 0
r_shadow_realtime_world 0
r_shadow_realtime_world_dlightshadows 0
r_shadow_realtime_world_shadows 0

vid_width 640
vid_height 480

ambient_level 0
bgmvolume 0
snd_staticvolume 0

For myself I haven't checked that some settings might overwrite others, but these settings are enought to run nexuiz even on a 32 Mb GPU like mine ! (this realy tells me almost nobody read http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=1354 this thread... )

I'm glad you agree with me Urmel

But they told me they don't want low.cfg to look like shit.

@Brutail: what gives you the idea nobody read it? Of coz I did. And with me about 856 more people

@them: Better look like shit than run like shit, thats MHO!

Urmel... wrote:Just trying to understand esteel's "why the !@#$%" reaction, I could be completely misunderstanding the whole discussion.

But I'd like to have it anyway, to test it on my Dell lappy with that old 64MB Radeon 9000 mobile. Just to show it to other ppl for advertize

Back to topic, is that correct: if 2.3 on low.cfg requires 70MB of the VGA's RAM, it won't be possible to run that on a machine with a 64MB graphics adaper? If it's like that, 64MB should be the desireable target...

Textures will be swapped (into system memory iirc) if the graphic card does not have enough memory so its still playable if the gfx card just has 64mb..I can't tell you how just that will slow down rendering. Maybe its not even noticable much on laptops which often have shared memory.
I'd rather add a laptop config

esteel wrote:I'd rather add a laptop config

That's a good idea man, after all there just has to be a config for the weak machines, accessible from the menue. No matter which name you give to that chile

morfar wrote:I'm glad you agree with me Urmel

But they told me they don't want low.cfg to look like shit.

Not sure if it should, however, there is nothing against making a lower.cfg

with the very latest DP the beta2 build is about as fast as the beta1 build again
and "tdem demo1" also works fine now, no crash!

New test version available.. http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=1673