Where could I obtain the the MIDI file to Track001, also known as Nexuiz menu music and Starship ambient music; I believe it fails to capture the feel and kick of a fast-paced shooter such as Nexuiz, and therefore I plan to recompose it [and yes, I do have the qualifications]

All I have to say is thank you.

The first place I'd look is in the svn...

Most of the music in the game is made by Gerd "eliysis" Raudenbusch (excuse the spelling) and iirc he/she uses Impulse Tracker. A midi file is thus not available, but an IT file might be. Its possible that the menu music is one of the few tracks not by Elysis, in that case i dont know

I guess someone is going to start the "source of binary content discussion again, but as I've earlier explained (over and over again), GPL cannot be directly applied to content, if it is binary data has to be considered its own source or the use of GPL is worthless, thus it might be very possible that the original creation files are lost, not available, or totally useless for anyone missing some spesific hardware/software

actually, IMHO binary files ARE its own source, simply because they are not the result of some automated process. Same goes for ASCII text files, of course. Nobody can request the "source" to one, even though one COULD consider a manuscript that - and of course, if the manuscript would be just sent as a copy, it would have a "source" again, so in the end you could request the REAL manuscript. So you see, it would get riddikulus when trying to actually do that... so one has to consider the binary file its own source, or one would get nowhere.

Nice to know someone agrees with me I still bet someone will start ranting about midi files has to be available for music cause the midi files are the musicis "source"..

I would not accept MIDIs as source anyway...

source is the FULL score of the music. That contains much more information than MIDI can encode... unfortunately, it can't be "compiled" to a music file in some straightforward way, so it doesn't qualify either... so again, there is no source, or in other words, the binary IS the only possible source.

i think you are right, so lets continue arguing

It seems like a single clause in the GNU GPL v2 has caused bickering... without any actual progress.

Track001 is not composed by elysis, thus I am dumbfounded at who to contact, and I do not need the full source as per say, but I request at least a reference of sorts; the problem comes from the combination of both previously stated facts, there is absolutely no trace of a reference, and no contact information for the true composer.

So what contact information does anyone, including Alientrap, Urmel, kojn/kojak, Kozak[6], & whoever, have? If I don't receive any merit of detail, I'll have to reverse engineer a source from the Hertz of the music...

TVR wrote:So what contact information does ...Kozak[6]... have?

I'm glad you asked .

The Nexuiz menu music is called "Digital Pursuit", by Brian Callahan/Parapraxis, whose website is:

http://www.geocities.com/slefd1m/

You can email him at slefd1m AT yahoo.com.

Are you still interested in another intro theme? I could make anything ... Just tell me the duration... loop yes/no .... ogg? ... or give me access to the art wiki

I already posted a song into the Zymotic forums.

Can't there be a tag in the ogg pointing to the creator/author, so problems like this may easily be solved on occurrence in the future?

I hope this happens! Along with the new kick-ass menu system, Nexiuz feels like a whole new game

To the original poster, what did you have in mind for the main theme, in terms of harmonies, chord progressions, orchestration, style, key, tempo, and mood?

tl;dr: Can you please describe the composition in words for me?

I've just added what I feel should be the new Nexuiz main theme, ...made by my Brother, James. It's called "Creation" and he's given full permission for us to use it for Nexuiz.

In my opinion, it's nothing short of fantastic.

Folder: "sound/cdtracks/creation.ogg"

See my signature for the download.

First of all welcome back Tenshihan.
Second, this soundtrack is amazing It completly fits with Nexuiz in my opinion. It should be used for the Frontpage vid?
Greetings,
fis

Fisume! wrote:should be used for the Frontpage vid?

Thats a cool idea..

That would be most appreciated! I've wanted to use this song in the game since I started playing Nexuiz, ...so, who else do we need to convince in order to make this a reality?

Fisume! wrote:First of all welcome back Tenshihan.
Second, this soundtrack is amazing It completly fits with Nexuiz in my opinion. It should be used for the Frontpage vid?
Greetings,
fis

Hi Fisume! Thanks for the greets bro! Same to you - great to hear from you!

I told my brother what you said and it made him really happy.

Wow, creation is really nice. Seriously awesome track, it's perfect for the intro. It's intense and ambient at the same time. It's got this epic feel to it.

[-z-] wrote:Wow, creation is really nice. Seriously awesome track, it's perfect for the intro. It's intense and ambient at the same time. It's got this epic feel to it.

W00t! Thank's -z-!

My brother, James, will be glad to hear of such approval, -z-!

On another note, I've just finished the very first version of my GPL library for everyone to use, and I'm about to upload it to your site (via my signature).

It's 118mb in size when zipped and approx 140mb unpacked, ...lots of various cool sounds in there for everyone to explore and hopefully they can use them in new maps and get ideas of what else they'd like to ask me for.

Cheers!

~Michael

Its a great song. And its already commited as i see

esteel wrote:Its a great song. And its already commited as i see

Where is it committed? Do you mean in my own soundpack, or somewhere else?

Committed around here usually means added to SVN so I'm about 99% sure this is what esteel meant ;]

Banned wrote:Committed around here usually means added to SVN so I'm about 99% sure this is what esteel meant ;]

Oh! Well, that's pretty cool then!

So umm, why does it say you are "BANNED", Alien? (...There's no friggin way, man...)

So umm, why does it say you are "BANNED", Alien? (...There's no friggin way, man...)

I'm actually PinkRobot, oh hai! The forum classifies me as an Alien, which is very kind.

And by the way, cheers for taking an interest in making Nexball sounds. I myself quite like the "boing" sound we have now but it will help the mod to have real sounds for it

Heh, PinkRobot, wish to exchange the titles with me?