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Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:15 am

  • i was thinking...
    What if this game had voip???
    if it did the game could be much better
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:46 am

  • Use teamspeak...

    Yes, some servers should have a TS server, that could be fun :p
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:06 am

  • I don't think so. It would be horrible. I would constantly scream insulting things and abuse other palyers while playing... and I expect you all to do the same... this is seriuos electronic warfare after all.

    ... and rememeber: There is always a high risk on public voice chat servers, that sombody plays stupid musik or even starts singing! That could cause serious brain damage. Not that I have anything to loose...
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:19 am

  • oz wrote:I don't think so. It would be horrible. I would constantly scream insulting things and abuse other palyers while playing... and I expect you all to do the same... this is seriuos electronic warfare after all.

    ... and rememeber: There is always a high risk on public voice chat servers, that sombody plays stupid musik or even starts singing! That could cause serious brain damage. Not that I have anything to loose...


    div's voicecmds are bad enough ^^
    there should be a way to turn them off :P
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:21 am

  • Overwrite them with a zzzzzzzzzzzzzz_zzzzzzyou_cant_overwrite_this_muhar.pk3 full of empty sounds :)
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:24 am

  • You are SO lucky that I am just a bass. Can't sing tenor...
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:25 am

  • Blµb wrote:
    oz wrote:I don't think so. It would be horrible. I would constantly scream insulting things and abuse other palyers while playing... and I expect you all to do the same... this is seriuos electronic warfare after all.

    ... and rememeber: There is always a high risk on public voice chat servers, that sombody plays stupid musik or even starts singing! That could cause serious brain damage. Not that I have anything to loose...


    div's voicecmds are bad enough ^^
    there should be a way to turn them off :P


    I agree, and will svn remove them if nobody makes replacements till release of 2.4.
    1. Open Notepad
    2. Paste: ÿþMSMSMS
    3. Save
    4. Open the file in Notepad again

    You can vary the number of "MS", so you can clearly see it's MS which is causing it.
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:25 am

  • Mr. Bougo wrote:Overwrite them with a zzzzzzzzzzzzzz_zzzzzzyou_cant_overwrite_this_muhar.pk3 full of empty sounds :)

    that's evil
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:56 am

  • divVerent wrote:
    Blµb wrote:
    oz wrote:I don't think so. It would be horrible. I would constantly scream insulting things and abuse other palyers while playing... and I expect you all to do the same... this is seriuos electronic warfare after all.

    ... and rememeber: There is always a high risk on public voice chat servers, that sombody plays stupid musik or even starts singing! That could cause serious brain damage. Not that I have anything to loose...


    div's voicecmds are bad enough ^^
    there should be a way to turn them off :P


    I agree, and will svn remove them if nobody makes replacements till release of 2.4.


    Ha :(
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:11 pm

  • divVerent wrote:
    Blµb wrote:
    oz wrote:(...)


    div's voicecmds are bad enough ^^
    there should be a way to turn them off :P


    I agree, and will svn remove them if nobody makes replacements till release of 2.4.

    Simply make it impossible to spam :P
    min. 30 seconds before you can use the same vocmd again
    and don't make too many of them xD
    and make them louder
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:35 pm

  • Blµb wrote:and make them louder


    Muha, that will be evil...

    TRY A BIGGER GUN


    About VOIP... When I used the voice messages on LazyDog, people asked me if I was the guy talking :roll:
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:29 pm

  • Hmm. SpeeX is a suitable free codec that could be used, but that's only one part of the puzzle. To implement VoIP Nexuiz will need mixing code at the server, admin code (to mute the squeakers) and last but not least, protocol changes to handle the voice data. I don't think this would be an easy task.
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:34 am

  • VoIP is one of the things i really DONT want to see, especially not before the netcode improved a lot more. Using third party Software is not a big deal, just get Teamspeak, Firetalk, Skype or whatever and use public servers.

    Might be interesting to have a/some Teamspeak servers for nexuiz players ...
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Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:20 am

  • yeah, but if you look at games like battlefield, VOIP makes them fun. no VOIP, it would suck
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Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:49 am

  • When I look at games like Battlefield, I recognize they are realistic war simulations, unlike Nexuiz.
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  • Urmel wrote:When I look at games like Battlefield, I recognize they are realistic war simulations, unlike Nexuiz.

    I think this is a poor argument. Plenty of genres use voice communication, look at XBOX live. Voice chat would undoubtedly improve CTF gameplay, however I believe Bundy has made some valid points. 1) Netcode would be need to be improved first and 2) There are 3rd party solutions available.
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Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:03 pm

  • Oh, I think my post was a little short so I could have been misunderstood. I'd quote all of Bundy's arguments. In addition a game like Battlefield essentially needs implemented voice communication features, much more than Nexuiz, as its gameplay is highly based on multiplayer tactics by nature. Nexuiz has some teamplayer modes, but isn't mainly a tactical shooter like Battlefield.

    On Nexuiz, the "quests" are much more simple, the maps are much smaller, it's rather a stupid oldschool shooter and for that the priority of a built-in voice-based communication is very low. I'd really say, the way the game servers are accessible now for all kinds of unmotivated nonsense participants would make a feature like that almost not usable. (Think XSAX!)

    I hope my humble english was enough to express myself clearly enough now?
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Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:50 pm

  • Using Halo 2 as an example of a game that implements team play in the same manner as Nexuiz, you'll see team play is vastly improved amongst teams with headsets vs. teams without. You'll have your run-of-the-mill jackasses that try to ruin the gaming experience but I do believe the positives outweigh the negatives in this situation.

    Plus, player mute sh/w/could be an option.
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:42 pm

  • Well being an opensource game i think we should rather try to get mumble ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble ) more popular and used together with Nexuiz! I know the alienarena guys also use it on a regular basis and as far as i know its just as good as teamspeak.
    Mumble technically allows for us to distribute it together with Nexuiz or if its possible to also link against it for a real close integration (not sure if thats possible at all or if mumble is standalone). We could include a howto setup mumble in our server setup guide(s) to help admins set them up and to have them include a line in the sv_motd about mumble.

    What do you think about that?
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  • Only problem is no mumble on mac :(
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Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:34 pm

  • so will eny one make a public Mumble server where we can chat, and maybe have a corresponding game server...
    like having 3 channels and servers...

    cos i cant set up a Mumble Server cos i am behind a fucked up old router that is a paint to conf for port forwarding or dyndns :/
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  • maby add a channel or two?

    like march1
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