Just judging from your screenshots: the Camping Rifle is neither hitscan nor splash. It shoots bullets, but they have to hit exactly and have no radius damage.

Same goes for other ballistic bullets, like the MG supports.

Does your code still work if g_ballistics_force is enabled? I'd really like to make this behaviour the default, as it is almost no gameplay change, but looks less retarded (no smoke appearing before the bullet).

it does support g_ballistics_force 1. only problem is im not exactly sure if it counts as a hit through walls. i wasn't able to test that myself.

Maybe combine both screens into just 'weapon stats'. You already use a variable to determine the type of the gun, so you could still display the right column for each gun. However the type of the gun should somehow be told by the server as variables like g_ballistics_force are unknown to the client..

Well, if this patch now supports ballistics, I'll simply make this mode the default, and remove the old hitscan mode (or make it an option).

So shotgun and MG bullets will need time to reach their target, right?

While this certainly won't make the SG worse (it has limited range where it is effective anyway) I am worried a bit about the MG...

The MG already has higher spread in svn, and is MEANT to be useless at long distance. That MG worked out for that was never intended (after all, it's a machine gun).

divVerent wrote:The MG already has higher spread in svn, and is MEANT to be useless at long distance. That MG worked out for that was never intended (after all, it's a machine gun).

Yeah, but even if MG is working at long range and intended for that, won't make enabling ballistic make it weaker since you have to lead your aim because of slow bullets?

It WOULD make the MG weaker, if it WERE working at long range.

But it IS NOT. It ALREADY got spread added so it is useless at long range, to stop people from abusing it as a sniper rifle.

Good change (in my personal opinion). Thanks.

any advice about MY patch instead of arguing about the mg becoming weaker or stronger?

http://sites.google.com/site/dibnexuiz/ ... racy-patch

newest patch. hopefully this gets rid of team damage counting as a hit. please test to ensure that it is working. also screenshots have been updated. splash accuracy now includes the hookbomb(which is not shown in the screenshot).

EDIT: this is for revision 5861 (i always forget to say that)

That doesn't look like it would scale well on a 800x600 resolution or even 1024x768. Perhaps you should combine both weapon types onto one screen and have 3 rows of weapons.

Playing in my server with many bots, I noticed that the stats aren't updated at every shot always. Is this normal?

As I told you on IRC, me too as -z- said, I'd see well the stats of both weapon types in one screen. 3 rows: first for hitscan weapons, 2nd and 3rd for splash weapons since they are more.

You are using colors from red to green, passing through the yellow to indicate percent of accuracy, so I thought you could use the "other" colors (cyan, blue or violet or any color near to these ones) to fill the background of the weapon images: one color for hitascan weapons, another one for splash weapons.

Oh, and another thing... I didn't see stats of bots.
Well... It's not an important thing, obviously, however could be interesting to see how much bots are good with the aim. Maybe it might be introduced a cvar that enables stats for bots too. I'm asking this trusting there is not a big extra work to do.

Ok i fixed a few things, but splash weapons dont always count as hits and im not sure why thats a problem. If someone could help me fix it that would be great.

terrencehill: i fixed the update stats problem. i was doing the calculation in the draw function rather than doing it separately so stats were only updating when you were actually looking at the stats board.

new patch here: http://dib.mkzelda.net/Patches/hitscanR6480.patch

EDIT: terencehill fixed splash weapons!!! new patch here: http://dib.mkzelda.net/Patches/hitscanR6475.patch

i realize thats an older revision than the post above.

Made a new patch that doesn't fail at defs.qc and main.qc: http://dib.mkzelda.net/Patches/hitscan.patch

Edit: In order to use this patch add this to your autoexec.cfg:

Code: Select all

//1 for hitscan
//0 for splash
//-1 for no display(porto)
set weapon_type1 0
set weapon_type2 1
set weapon_type3 1
set weapon_type4 0
set weapon_type5 0
set weapon_type6 0
set weapon_type7 1
set weapon_type8 0
set weapon_type9 0
set weapon_type10 -1
set weapon_type11 1
set weapon_type12 0
set weapon_type13 0
set weapon_type14 0
set weapon_type15 1


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Is there any chance this gets into an official release?
Good work there!

For those who wanted to see the accuracy all on one board:

Icarus wrote:For those who wanted to see the accuracy all on one board:

Mmmm statistics *Drewls* Nice!

thanks Im gonna organize it so that hitscan/ballistics weapons are on top and splash are on bottom.

I'm starting thinkin that it could be much better to integrate stats in the hud. Above every icon of a weapon its stats. The accuracy stat could be placed on the right part of the weapon icon, coloring icon based on the accuracy. This way they take up less space, they are already sorted by the hud itself, and also u can play without problems seeing them while playing.

Stats could be show in 2 ways, both controlled by the user:

showstats 1: show stats when u press a key (+showstats) and let them disappear when u release that key (-showstats)

showstats 2: show stats always

The double weapons (like MG/riffle) are the only (small) problem: they can be shown correctly (MG icon - MG stats above - riffle icon above - riffle stats above) with a proper algorithm but the stats would go a bit too much in the middle of the screen.

ok terencehill ill work on that.

mmm... My idea of putting stats above the icons doesn't work with the current HUD, since the stats would go under the armor/health/bullets. I wasn't considering it (DOH!).
Very good result the accuracy over the weapon's icon.

Icarus wrote:

Maybe it's possible to raise the armor/health/ammo numbers and icons higher up, so that they are aligned with the small 4 and 1 numbers on top of the fragcount.

I'd love to use it, but I don't know how to install it

here is the newest patch: http://dev.alientrap.org/attachments/15 ... y-rc5.diff
now there is only one screen with all stats: +showaccuracy
and you can view the stats on the hud: sbar_hud_accuracy 1
if you would like to test it you would have to do it on your own server because no other servers use this patch.

I wonder when does this get stable.

committed to svn