Hello all.
First off, what a great FPS!
I am a casual 'lounge console' gamer (not pro or hardcore), but I do enjoy a blast here and there.
setup is Core2Duo E8400, Nvidia integrated gfx/sound, 4GB DDR2 RAM and Samsung 46" HDTV.
All input devices are wireless. My gampad is a Logitech Rumble 2 and the operating system is Linux
(Sidux/Debian)

I am pleased that a joystick/gamepad enable option is in the menu system, but a 'look
up/down invert' option is sorely missing!
I accept that the vast majority of FPS gamers on PC prefer mouse/keyboard, but this
game is **such a good example** of Linux gaming goodness, that the above omission
is really sad..

This game would happily replace my Xbox Halo cravings if look up/down was fixed.
I have tried various console/config options from this forum but none appear to work.
For now, my gamepad is in bits until I go back to work (electronics) where I can rewire
the appropriate pot to work as needed.

Here's hoping..

I'm quite sure its possible but i do not have a joystick to test right now..
Try

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cvarlist joy

that will list all the ingame options regarding joysticks. The next version will have a nice menu list for this too.
I suppose the option for what you want could be joy_sensitivityyaw. I guess if you just change the sign of its value from -1.8 to just 1.8.

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joy_sensitivityyaw 1.8

in the console should do the trick.

Thanks for your (yaw?) reply

Sadly, I don't believe this should/would work because Yaw is the wrong axis.
see link:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaw_axis

I already tried 'pitchsensitivity' (the more obvious choice), but it didn't seem to work...
I have also tried various joystick CLI tools too
I will wait until the next release of Nexuiz to solve this. In the meantime I will mod my
stick to work as required.

No, i just meant that the next version will have a nice interface for setting such variables.. not an interface for joysticks. Really so far only 4 people including you asked about such a thing.. compared to the million downloads thats really too few to warrent putting too much energy into such a menu control i guess.

But i guess you are right about the yaw/pitch thing. I'm not a native english speaker and was not sure about both meanings, must have picked the wrong one. Strange that pitch did not work then. It just just work the same by changing the sign.. I have no other idea atm then

No worries
I knew this wouldn't be a 'must have' feature as you've just confirmed. I am quite
handy with a soldering iron and will modify the stick (Nexuiz is the only reason I bought it).
I can use the mouse/keyboard combo, but a) I'm not great with it and b) It's not very good
using the arm of a sofa for the mouse surface! lol

Basically, I don't use the classic computer workstation setup (imagine that with a 46" monitor, not! )

You won't be comfortable with stick cause nexuiz unlike console games requires precision (nex, camping rifle, uzi).

To invert up/down looking with gamepads:

Press shift+esc to get the console.

For regular Nexuiz type:
joypitchsensitivity -0.9

If you use Nexuiz-SDL type:
joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9

morfar wrote:For regular Nexuiz type:
joypitchsensitivity -0.9

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So far i thought thats only for the windows version.. but maybe you are right..

@Morfar

I tried that, didn't work. I even tried adding to .cfg file too. Are you sure this works with
Debian (Linux) version?

p.s. I looked at other forum posts, tried them but my pad is in bits at the mo..

Worked for me. And I have the same gamepad as you. Using Ubuntu 8.10 which is based on debian.

esteel wrote:

morfar wrote:For regular Nexuiz type:
joypitchsensitivity -0.9

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So far i thought thats only for the windows version.. but maybe you are right..

Yes.. windows only. I thought maybe he used Windows I should read more.

morfar wrote:

esteel wrote:

morfar wrote:For regular Nexuiz type:
joypitchsensitivity -0.9

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So far i thought thats only for the windows version.. but maybe you are right..

Yes.. windows only. I thought maybe he used Windows I should read more.

Ok, now I *am* confused. I am using Debian Nexuiz 2.4.2, SDL or GLX?
I've no idea. I'll put my pad back together and try again..

Good News! Lol

Got my pad back together and found the following worked:-

joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9

It seems I have the SDL version. Thankyou guys!

Congrats. Now try aiming with nex

string6 wrote:joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9

I thought that was the one you tried right after you figured out that i made an mistake with yaw
Glad to see it worked though..

However i think the default for that variable is 1.. so to have the EXACT opposite you should set it to -1

esteel wrote:

string6 wrote:joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9

I thought that was the one you tried right after you figured out that i made an mistake with yaw
Glad to see it worked though..

However i think the default for that variable is 1.. so to have the EXACT opposite you should set it to -1

no. It's 0.9. So -0.9 is right. But it doesn't really matter.

Alien wrote:Congrats. Now try aiming with nex

I agree, that precision stuff (mainly fast long range) isn't easy, but I'm already better with
pad than I was with mouse/keyboard.
I haven't had the urge to venture online yet, still training against bots and enjoying it.
My pad configuration feels nice and I'm probably a little better than I was with Xbox anyway! (not saying too much..)

Here's my prefs:-
Left upper trig ---> Sec Fire
Left lower trig ---> crouch
Right upper trig --> Pri Fire
Right lower trig --> Drop Weapon
Left Stick button -> Zoom
Button 1 ----------> Next Weapon
Button 2 ----------> Jump
Button 4 ----------> Prev Weapon

May add more functions (D-pad etc) later.

The main downside is that I have to use a script to copy my config-joy.cfg to config.cfg
prior to game startup, as the inverted prefs get removed each time from the standard .cfg
file...

use 'seta' when changing the variable, that will make the variable be saved to config.cfg. In fact one might argue why its not saved automatically..
( e.g. seta joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9)
i think the a stands for archive..

Or seta = set for Ages

esteel wrote:use 'seta' when changing the variable, that will make the variable be saved to config.cfg. In fact one might argue why its not saved automatically..
( e.g. seta joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9)
i think the a stands for archive..

Hmm.. Am I being stupid here? I tried both console and direct edit, but ' seta joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9 ' just doesn't stick.
It works until I close then restart Nexuiz and it's gone! Gonna have to keep my script for now..

Btw, off topic, but those bots are bloody good for the opening round on the single player campaign
The server only bot settings are much more like I would expect.

Hmm, no it should just work.. Maybe you made a typo?

Hoorah! I'm not going crazy or being stupid.

I have switched to Mandriva recently and their Nexuiz binary has a additional cfg file in .nexuiz, compared to the Debian package.
The file is called 'autoexec.cfg' . This was not present in Debian version but is in Mandriva. if I add 'joy_sensitivitypitch -0.9' to this file the setting now sticks permanently as expected.

Better late than never. Just gotta practice more so as to elevate beyond 'bottom feeder' status! Lol

What?!? Basicly i'd say ~/.nexuiz is for userfiles only.. no distribution should put stuff there. But well i'm glad it works for you now.

"What?!? Basicly i'd say ~/.nexuiz is for userfiles only.." esteel

What do you mean by user files exactly? The .<application> folders ARE there for local user preferences of any given application. This is standard practice.
Usually, global preferences are stored in /etc/<application folder> or maybe /usr/share/<application folder>.
In fact a cheap and dirty way of customising new added users is to put the tweaked .<application> folder or file, in to /etc/skel. This is if global file is not readily available or used.

I know there is /etc/skel but in general i hate distribtions that feel like fiddling with 'my' files in ~ ! including adding a autoexec.cfg file in ~/.nexuiz/data .. If i want such a file i'll add it myself!

"including adding a autoexec.cfg file in ~/.nexuiz/data .. If i want such a file i'll add it myself!" esteel

Yes, that's fine *but* without it my setting wouldn't stick, hence the thread.
If it was present (in Debian) I would have solved this much sooner!

Anyway, it's just a update in case anyone else reading this thread has similar difficulty.
Thanks again.