tundramagi wrote:

alpha wrote:If we had some centralized server with user auth data then we could make awesome skill statistics and "experience" and medals and lots of stuff.

Just saying...

And then anyone that whoever controls that server doesn't like gets banned from playing nexuiz. Ah, I see why some people like the idea.

I don't get it. What do you mean?

TVR wrote:

Alien wrote:Quake 3 is alive not because of oa, but rather it's comps are still held (cpma) and now quakelive.

I wouldn't expect anyone who already has Q3 Arena to play QuakeLive, the same game but with advertisements.

Q3 Arena still has a niche because there is no Quake 5 Arena.

Yet there are thousands of QL players who could play nexuiz if they knew it exists.

Alien wrote:

TVR wrote:

Alien wrote:Quake 3 is alive not because of oa, but rather it's comps are still held (cpma) and now quakelive.

I wouldn't expect anyone who already has Q3 Arena to play QuakeLive, the same game but with advertisements.

Q3 Arena still has a niche because there is no Quake 5 Arena.

Yet there are thousands of QL players who could play nexuiz if they knew it exists.

Go on their forums and tell them about it

I have Nexuiz written part of my name.

Alien wrote:I have Nexuiz written part of my name.

Tell them about it Harder.

*admin-edit* Thanks for your helpful posts..

I personally don´t understand the disliking of having a Password-Server Option. Sure. Its a Free Game and anyone can play it, but if i for example, for a Scrim or whatever, want to play with just a handful of my friends, without being disturbed by public players, I should have the option of just closing my Server for that.

Any FPS Game has that serverside by now, why not Nexuiz ? Shouldn´t be that hard to do. And again, its not especially about implementing a Feature that a Developer might not like, its more about giving people an Option if they want to do that or not. Not just saying NO from the beginning. Thats too single-sided oppinion if you ask me.

Well, I do not say totally NO. Just that they should not be in the list of PUBLIC servers.

You'd have to spread your IP another way then, that's all I say. dyndns.org exists for a reason.

How about a Filter in the Serverlist for Passworded Servers ? Many Games have that, and so not Public and non-Public (passworded) Servers wouldn't be in the same list, unless you enable that filter.

Well, remind me again how a password protected server is different from a non-public server?
For the first you need to tell your friends the 'name' and the 'password' while all other players will just be annoyed by an server in the server list which they can't join.. If you need to change the password you still need to tell your friends.
For the later you need to tell your friends the 'ip:port' which they can enter in the join dialog, add the server as favorite (bookmark) and it will just work. If someone found the server by accident (will that really happen?) you need to tell your friends the new port..

In fact it would even be possible to host a 'planned' match on a public server.. off the mind, untested:
alias clanmatch_start "sv_public -1; map aggressor" // this alias will take the server off the public server list, and kick all players on it
alias clanmatch_over "sv_public 1; heartbeat; endmatch" // this alias will add the server to the public server list again..

Make the admin install those aliases, make them available to you via master loging or restricted rcon.

No offense, but your suggestions are all so much more complicated than a simple "sv_password 1" option that any Quake Server and also most other Games have. That would be far more simple. And also, what do I care when I want to play for example with 4 or 5 friends for an evening alone on our Server, why would I care if someone else would like that or not ?

Thats why its called "Private", you can find that in any Game and I am sure Players there are not annoyed by the fact that there are times where you simply want to be alone for a match or 2, or even in a Clan War. The option to put a Serverside Password is really absolutely standard and everyone would understand that. Unless you´re saying that all the other Games do something wrong by having that option.

You´re making it more complicated with your solution that it is. You think with this Option available, every 2nd Server would have a Password then ? LOL

Excessive behaviour i would call that. Those that do want to be alone for a while, for whatever reason that isn´t for justification, should just be able to.

You come here and all you do is demanding useless stuff.

And yes, players ARE annoyed if a significant amount of the servers in the list are passworded. Here there are different interests clashing:

- the 5 friends that want to meet like the server to be in the list
- the >100 people that do not have the password do not want to be annoyed by your private server

Guess which group of the two I'd rather give what they want.

And I got pretty annoyed by that feature in Unreal Tournament. All the close servers are passworded there.

Really, for passworded servers we need a better solution. What about a clickable link that starts Nexuiz? You could put that link in a protected part of your clan website. An URL handler that starts Nexuiz would be really neat, and also solve your problem in a way that does not annoy other players. Someone with Windows coding experience should do that.

And BTW: yes, every 2nd UT server has a password set. q.e.d.

Well, if by offering ideas what I think can make Nexuiz even better as it is already, you see that as "demanding senseless stuff", then I might stop posting now.

Obviously ideas are not appreciated. Of course you as Dev. decide whats best for your Game, that said, I wish you good luck to any further development of Nexuiz, for being already one of the best Free FPS Games out there.

If you´d like you can delete my other thread with the CPMA Physics thingy. Lets just pretend I didn´t posted it.

Have fun.

LOL, delete my thread.. i'm really bored by such stuff. You made a suggestion and people responded to it. Why is it that people always snap when people do not respond like expected? Thats childish..

And please read my post again and respond to it.. were is there difference in handling a password protected server and sv_public 0 server? I even showed you a possibility to combine the best of both easily. And again: sv_public 0 tell your friends the ip and port.. or sv_password "xyz" and tell your friends the name (or ip and port) AND the password.. complicated?
I'll tell you what the difference is for password servers.. EXTRA WORK. Plain as that. And yes, by the way you act you DEMAND this extra work to be done by people that are already busy with other stuff.
How about this instead: Take this patch you find in this thread, and all the suggestions divVerent gave about, post it in the 'developers needed' thread and ask someone to do the changes and matching Nexuiz menu changes for it? Then when this whole block is complete it might be reevaluated!
But don't snap and act like someone stole your lollipop.. Ideas are welcome, and people are free to implement them. But is it that hard to get that the current devs are already quite busy and that you are not suggesting but demanding? There is a difference in suggesting idea and acting like you do right now.

BTW, i posted to the 'need developers' thread.. http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?p=59116#59116

There also are other ways to do private servers, some of which could be implemented and would not annoy other players.

For example... if you are on a server, what about some player being able to send you the IP of his server, so you can add it as a favorite and it'll show up in the server list even if it is private?