I think developers would be more apt to help if the project was managed better. Communication between devs is limited and without proper lines of communication, it's hard for everyone to be on the same page. If a new person wants to contribute, the need to find the obscure Sourceforge URLs or the www.nexuiz.com/bugs forwarding url. The wiki is outdated and crappy, the best resource is hosted at OUNS... which as alpha complained is another obscure name. IRC communication is only helpful to some degree and mixed with the clusterfuck of wikis, forum posts, svn (again offsite) and the "tracker" that is sourceforge, it's no wonder it's hard to get / keep people interested.

Keeping everything in one place would be ideal. Redmine is a swift project management system that has per project wikis, forums, repository browser, issue/feature tracking and is very extendible.

Plugins like Ez FAQ and Question would help open up the development of the project and diffuse the tension between developers and users as well as developer vs. developers.

There is a tcl script available for eggdrops to echo issues to IRC and I can go on and on.

I've been managing projects for roughly four years and have used many different applications to assist me in this process. I've recently ported all the Nexuiz Ninjaz development to Redmine and things have already been going smoother. I'm very pleased with redmine, which is catered towards the development of software.

Perhaps I should fork this post to another thread because the shot-callers really need to see this and do something about it. As Nexuiz gets bigger, this problem of project management will only get worse.

I vote for dev.nexuiz.com

[-z-] wrote:It's been 2 days... and it's the weekend, how about you relax and have some courtesy?

Sorry, this project has been going so fast, i thought i would at least get a small update.

Sorry. :oops:

I come with good news Today I finished version 2.0 of the patch which now includes correct weapon earning and other fixes. The user now gets one weapon as usual and dual wields once they pick that weapon up again. Each weapon can be dropped individually as well. Credits go to MrBougo for implementing all weapon earning and weapon dropping code.

I also fixed the shot origins and synced the muzzle flashes to them. The random shot origin is now gone and each weapon shoots next after the other. The muzzle flashes only display on the weapon that shoots, not on both weapons every shot. Also added according console messages when you pick or drop a dual weapon.

Only remaining issue is that if you're holding a single weapon and pick it up again, there is no animation and you just see the second gun appearing there. Maybe that will be fixed in time if the animations can be figured out, but for now that shouldn't matter much (you don't get to see it often either way).

Patch is ready to go to SVN. Tested with other mutators (including all values for g_weapon_stay) and there don't appear to be any issues. Please commit if agreed it's ready. Here's the link again.

YES, DO IT

Double-HLAC spam on close range ftw!

im going to try this right now.

broken link..

could someone with the 2.0 version hook me up? the link is broken..

Sourceforge seems to have broken for Nexuiz. Uploading the latest version on MediaFire, link here.

MirceaKitsune wrote:Sourceforge seems to have broken for Nexuiz. Uploading the latest version on MediaFire, link here.

For next patches http://dev.alientrap.org/ should be fine

mand1nga wrote:For next patches http://dev.alientrap.org/ should be fine

Yay, we finally said goodbye to Sourceforge I'll try to upload it there soon.

awesome thanks..im gonna go try this now...

rawr..forgot i need the svn build to use .patch files..cant build it on a mac..

any servers running this?

mand1nga wrote:

MirceaKitsune wrote:Sourceforge seems to have broken for Nexuiz. Uploading the latest version on MediaFire, link here.

For next patches http://dev.alientrap.org/ should be fine

Finally...

Alien wrote:

mand1nga wrote:

MirceaKitsune wrote:Sourceforge seems to have broken for Nexuiz. Uploading the latest version on MediaFire, link here.

For next patches http://dev.alientrap.org/ should be fine

Finally...

Is this in?

No, it still needs a lot of work. The approach wasn't ideal, should be half recoded.
I'll try to help in summer, I have to figure out how the model thing works.

Yes, it will take a while. The implementation is rather technically incorrect.. in-game it works and displays alright. A real 2nd weapon hand would get rid of the effect that the left weapon is floating as an offset of the right weapon though, as you can see when standing still and watching the weapon ambientaly move.

I also found another issue. If you dual wield then press F3 to become spectator then join the game again, you will eventually get floating weapon models and see weapons which aren't there. I tried to fix it but *WeaponThink() which is used to remove the entities once useless only executes when the player is not a spectator, and since removing the dual weapon entity doesn't seem to work anywhere else in the code I'm kinda stuck on this one

Some questions.

1. How can I get 2 lasers?

2. Can we use 2 different weapons ? Hagar in right hand, crylink in left, Spam King

alpha wrote:Some questions.

1. How can I get 2 lasers?

2. Can we use 2 different weapons ? Hagar in right hand, crylink in left, Spam King

1. id imagine since there are no laser pickups, that wouldnt be possible..unless killed players using the laser drop it..do they? ive never checked..

2. that would be awesome..*Drools*

1. If you're in a game where the laser is a dropable weapon and a 2nd one can be picked up, sure.

2. No, you can only dual-wield the same weapon at a time. Making two different weapon types wieldable simultaneously would be very hard. Maybe some other time in the future.

MirceaKitsune wrote:Yes, it will take a while. The implementation is rather technically incorrect.. in-game it works and displays alright. A real 2nd weapon hand would get rid of the effect that the left weapon is floating as an offset of the right weapon though, as you can see when standing still and watching the weapon ambientaly move.

Then models' left hand bones should be adjusted. You could attach to them then.

Alien wrote:Then models' left hand bones should be adjusted. You could attach to them then.

The 3rd person weapon is attached correctly. The only one with this problem is the 1st person weapon model, since there doesn't appear to be a Left hand weapon slot floating in front of the camera. The 1st person gun doesn't link with the player model in any way I think, maybe just to the camera, which doesn't seem to have a left slot.

even though its coded very messily, is there any hope of getting to play this on a server as a kind of preview?? just one? please?

lovely shit in here

Hmm.. How is this project going? Once it's finished, it will be so awesome. :P

It's currently at a point where I don't know what else to do with it. MrBougo is planning to look into it as well this summer but until then it's open for anyone else to look at the code.

Worst problem now is the floating weapons thing when users spectate and join back. Once that is fixed the next thing would be having a real weapon hand for the 2nd gun (1st person gun) then I think it would be finished

Yay. You have done a great job with it so far.

Thank you

this is great, love it.

looks great. where exactly in the svn do you put the file though?