Discuss and vote on Aggressor (Official).

One of my favourites.

One of mine too.

Im not to fond of this one, But i dont know why so.. i guess good? =)

The map is good, I just don't play very well on it

Fast paced map. Almost too small for even 1v1. It is hard to break control on that map.
Also I heard several new players complaining about that map, because damage through wall can be exploited here alot.
I like it anyway, dont know if that means it is a good map or rather i got too used to it

dIM wrote:Also I heard several new players complaining about that map, because damage through wall can be exploited here alot.

I still say damage through walls is stupid.

How about damage through floors then ?

PunkRabbit wrote:How about damage through floors then ?

Same (mis)feature.

Outstanding (!) performance, great atmosphere. Tactical deepness and quite easy to learn at the same time. This map is a real masterpiece. The only closed map I really love.

too small in my opinion

1on1 maps don't get much better than this. Surprising depth of gameplay, takes a very long time to master.

Have to agree to those that say this map is good. It has a simple layout still the teleporter and laserjump make this map seem small which just adds to the action. 1vs1 can't get more action packed then this, please do not change this map.

Damage through walls is a thing we need to talk about.. back then when it was 'fixed' i added an option for it and people agreed in a poll that its a good idea to keep it. Myself i'm no longer totally sure this is right. I guess it worked 'better' in quake3 because the splash damage area was not as huge as in Nexuiz. If there were a new poll i think i'd vote for 'turn it off'.

Great 1v1 map, one of my favorite. The only problem I see is that it can get very spammy sometimes. It's alright when it's skillful spam, but some people just fire rockets and grenades everywhere without even trying to listen and figure out where their opponent is. It can be very stupid, like "hello I'm here firing everything I've got, aiming at a place you're not so go ahead and sneak behind my back and nex my head off".

I agree that damage thru walls/floors is part of that problem, but it's a delicate issue because that (mis)feature is very interesting on other maps like Soylent.

I think one of the key elements to this map is that you can access just about any part of it in one "step" because it is very compact and a lot of it is stacked vertically. It's compactness allows the spamming to be an issue, I think. Of course, it also creates part of the challenge of the map. If someone controls the map in the middle area (from what I've seen and experienced personally) you usually have to resort to moving between the mortar and electro rooms until you can take away control again.

I could imagine a "reloaded" version of this map being extended and widened a bit so that spamming is a little harder, much in the same way that slimepit was changed in later versions.

I won't deny this is my fav (and best) 1v1 map so i will try not to be biased, so i'll sum it up quickly).

what i agree on what has been said here.

fast, solid (and surprisng depth..quote kyre ).
Surprisingly hard to master, im good here cause i've had so much experience but i've also had a few close calls as well.


possible / bad points.

spamming at times can be a problem, this is due to the wall damage as well at times, can be countered for example going through a tele then back throught it backwards again to fool opponent, but not always possible, can get caught out on the stairs a LOT from floor damage)

a good player here will destroy a not so good opponent..but this is the same on all maps.

maybe a little small, but it keeps the action fast paced however so a bit of a trade-off in that sense (and one of the only good small map with good fast frantic in 1v1 gameplay i can think of)

wall / floor damage ...i've thought about this quite a bit lately, with this turned off i think we'd see a LOT more tactical and skilled games on ALL maps, not just this one, also i don't think nexuiz's maps' implement the wall / floor damage very well. As in it's too easy to use / exploit it a lot of the time.

I've no idea what should be changed here.
I loved the layout from the beginning. Totally solid mapped thus easy to convert. Great connectivity. Hard to master. Really fast (which is always a good thing imo), and great vertical action.
I vote for leaving it as it is.
Only some visual improvements here and there (higher res-textures etc.) would add to it. But i got used to the look of it and wouldn't put my hands on it again.