One of my fave maps ever!!!

All the maps made by AT sucks in my opinion, except Soylent, Final Rage and Ruiner.

R-Bot wrote:All the maps made by AT sucks in my opinion, except Soylent, Final Rage and Ruiner.

o_O

KillaGrunt:

hmh.. I like tZork's remake more

tZork's remake has a much nicer feel to it.

I'd say that silvercity is not that great as a dm map and absolutely horrible as a ctf map (sorry, I think it's an embarrassment to include it in the official release), but it is one of the best kh maps out there.


Why is tZork's remake not included in the official release?

Silver is a quite nice map for minstagib. On standard DM it's quite boring, especially when the player count is low. There should be at least 3 or 4 nexguns placed.

I know i don't think it's a very good ctf map either but i have only been to the one that came with nexuiz 2.4.2 I also think that it's the best rune maps out there

People actually play Rune matches?

Xeno The Blind wrote:People actually play Rune matches?

sometimes.. alone if i am very bored. are there server?
Agree with Urmel

I have to disagree. I love that map since the very beginning Imho it was much more fun wo. a skybox
With 8+ players the action never stops, and on the ground floor the game's style becomes "king of the hill"

i like it very much..
and it is actually a good feature that NO Nex is in there.
rockets, plasma balls and grenades are fun too, my dear snipers ^^

and dont forget the laser jumps..

I'm jumping on the 'reloaded is better' train.

i get so sick of this map, especially because it seems to get voted for every time it comes up even when there's not enough players to make for an interesting match.

I generally like this map, but I too prefer the reloaded version.

The problem with "reloaded" is that the FPS is much lower. Otherwise, it is a much improved version of silvercity. Is there any way of boosting the FPS? If so, then this could just replace the current silvercity in the mappool, IMO.

I agree with torus that turning silvercity into a CTF map was a bad idea, or just a really bad implementation. In order to make it a playable CTF map, it would need some layout changes. The bases are too dissimilar and they are too close together.

Can somebody tell me where i can find the different Silvercity?

http://forums.alientrap.local/viewtopic.php?t=2478

you should try http://forums.alientrap.local/search.php sometime KillaGrunt

According to the SVN history log, CTF for silvercity is taken out of the default mapinfo file as of a couple days ago (thankfully).

"ctf on silvercity? no thanks"
http://svn.icculus.org/nexuiz?view=rev& ... ision=3917

Good. It was a horrible ctf map. Oh and Tzork, The reloaded silvercity is *cough*much better. I like how you added the blue and all that extra stuff.

KillaGrunt wrote:The reloaded silvercity is *cough*much better.

It's silvercity reloaded...

KillaGrunt wrote:One of my fave maps ever!!!

KillaGrunt wrote:Good. It was a horrible ctf map.

O_o

Remind me why reloaded is not included in the official release.

I think LordHavoc was not sure about the map?!?

I know it is Silvercity Reloaded.

i like the original Silvercity for DM with 4+ players..

for CTF it really is horrible, because if the flag carrier decides to run - run and run and run - there is no easy catch without an instant hit weapon. boring!

but otherwise: space maps rule.

esteel wrote:I think LordHavoc was not sure about the map?!?

I doesn't take a Nexuiz player to see the vast improvements. I hope he'll reconsider for the next release.

Xeno the Blind wrote:Remind me why reloaded is not included in the official release.

The image quality may be lacking, but I believe it is sufficient to illustrate some counter-points:

I think those are nitpicks and don't really agree with any of them.

I don't really understand the 2nd picture. The ramp and jump pad look like the same theme to me?

[-z-] wrote:I think those are nitpicks and don't really agree with any of them.

The previous post was an unweighted list, if any comments were to be made, the contested reason must be specified.

[-z-] wrote:I don't really understand the 2nd picture. The ramp and jump pad look like the same theme to me?

They both accomplish the purpose of accessing the platform, and therefore there is unnecessary redundancy.

Unnecessary redundancy is purely stylistic, as it serves no design function.

I for one wouldn't consider the curvey thing in the middle of the map, "an eyesore that serves little purpose". I think it makes gameplay more interesting by guiding the user to the armor, or making it more difficult to access, depending on where the player is coming from. It also makes the map unique and easily identifiable.

I don't feel like I have to defend the other images because they are what they are, nitpicks.

TVR wrote:herefore there is unnecessary redundancy.

Unnecessary redundancy is purely stylistic, as it serves no design function.

We call it choice. It adds new dimension to maps. In miniman, you can jump off the monitor into the megahealth jar or jump up the objects (phone, clock, etc.). This makes for interesting situations.

Jump bender does just that. and what makes you you think its eyesore?

Yes the crack is clipped. not the side rail tho since i think its totally silly to clip things you should get stuck on if your clumsy enough to walk into.

Did you even try the jump pad in that pic? i guess not or else you would know it does something totally different then the ramp does.

yeh, that brush needs more rotation.

No it don't. it matches the theme of silvercity-reloaded.

oh end this should proly go in a new thread. this one is abt silvercity, not -reloaded. to tired to fix that right now.

[-z-] wrote:I for one wouldn't consider the curvey thing in the middle of the map, "an eyesore that serves little purpose". I think it makes gameplay more interesting by guiding the user to the armor, or making it more difficult to access, depending on where the player is coming from.

There exists a similar jumppad and suspended pickup on evilspace, without a guide.

By personal preference, the contributions of that curve to map flow are insufficient to valuate the detraction from map aesthetics.

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[-z-] wrote:I don't feel like I have to defend the other images because they are what they are, nitpicks.

A design flaw remains a design flaw, regardless of magnitude.

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[-z-] wrote:

TVR wrote:herefore there is unnecessary redundancy.

Unnecessary redundancy is purely stylistic, as it serves no design function.

We call it choice. It adds new dimension to maps. In miniman, you can jump off the monitor into the megahealth jar or jump up the objects (phone, clock, etc.). This makes for interesting situations.

Unnecessary redundancy has no effect upon map design.

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tZork wrote:Jump bender does just that. and what makes you you think its eyesore?

Design inconsistency, the entire map is planar in terms of direction, with that free-standing curve as the only exception

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tZork wrote:Yes the crack is clipped. not the side rail tho since i think its totally silly to clip things you should get stuck on if your clumsy enough to walk into.

In previous versions of Nexuiz, it was indeed possible to be stuck in that crack with the same, unmodified mapfile in current circulation.

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tZork wrote:Did you even try the jump pad in that pic? i guess not or else you would know it does something totally different then the ramp does.

At the time of those screen captures, the secondary jumppad did not function, but the intended effect, by personal preference, is equally negative on map flow.

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tZork wrote:No it don't. it matches the theme of silvercity-reloaded.

The lamp is a product of design inconsistency, while the addition of hitscan weaponry to silvercity-reloaded does not match the other uses of the moniker 'reloaded' to describe modifications of an existing map, namely - gameplay mechanics.

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Edit: torus spotted a double negative.